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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 87 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Exciting news for people who live in countries that promote vaccination.

Good luck to everyone preparing their illicit journey across the US/Mexico border to get basic medical care.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 35 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If the EU (or China) steps it up we'll eliminate HIV in Africa before it's eliminated in the US. Christians still need a way to punish homosexuals.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

The bitter miserable thing is that American Christians have fully infested countries like Uganda, Nigeria, and Kenya, with predictably awful results.

African Anti-LGBTQ Groups and Anti-Vaxxers Unite Against WHO at ‘Family Values’ Conference

If there is a global reorientation around the EU and BRICS (which seems increasingly unlikely as Russia/Ukraine has devastated trans-Asiatic trade relations and India/Pakistan feuding threatens to plunge billions into a new World War), its going to have to be over the backs of tens of thousands of evangelical missionaries and their American exploiters.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 weeks ago

First read

The bitter miserable thing that is American Christians

and it made sense.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I am curious, how is india and pakistan doing what they do best a cause for a global conflict? In the two last ones it was a bunch of european states tied together through silly treaties and pacts and a whole lot of countries coming together to stamp out the nazis, respectively.

India and pakistan are neighbors and essentially two sides of the same coin with different religions, and as far as i know have no defensive pacts with any major outside power. So even if they went to full blown war it would stay fairly confined to the region, no? Excluding considerations such as trade impact of course.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 60 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

tldr for people

80% of people who took said Vaccine (theres 3 being tested in various first/booster configurations) have antibodies against HIV.

6% developed varying levels of hives/rashes ranging from weeks to years. Currently unknown what in the HIV/mRNA usages causes the rashes.

[–] MysteriousSophon21@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is a huge breakthrough considering traditional HIV vaccine approaches have failed for 40+ years, and mRNA tech is finally making it possible to target the virus's constantly mutating envelope protiens.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, why should we eliminate viruses and all the related human suffering when we can just pretend it is not that bad and ignore it.

I swear these wanna be Mother Teresa motherfuckers want people to suffer.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I wonder if there will be any long-team side effects.

[–] humancrayon@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Long term side effects include:

  • Not dying
  • Having to pay your taxes
  • Being able to experience the joys of food
  • Still being broke
[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 weeks ago

No thanks then

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You just responded to a comment that explained exactly what you are asking for.

Long-term side effects are called that because they stay for a long time, not because they appear after a long time. They develop quickly after the vaccination and stay for a long time.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wasn't asking anything.

But, you're right, what I'm wondering is actually if there will turn out to be side effects that we don't realize until these have been in use for decades.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I understand what you are wondering and I gave you the answer: No.

Long-term effects happen soon after injection and stay for a long term. They don't happen years down the line.

You can also wonder whether the sun will turn green when you fart, and also there the answer is no.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wondering something isn't a question. It doesn't have an answer. I think you took my comment to mean something it didn't mean.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wondering without asking a question is called "Trying to spread misinformation and backing out when being called out".

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it isn't. It was a casual statement of curiosity about the future.

There are always things we don't know when newish discoveries go into common use that we learn over the first few decades of really widespread use.

It seems like you're projecting a whole lot of meaning onto a casual comment when there was really not much there.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, the answer to your curiosity is there. No need for further wondering, same as you don't need to wonder wheter the sun will rise tomorrow. We know.

But you insist on wondering even though the knowledge is already there.

So why are you still claiming that it's a "casual statement of curiosity about the future", when the result is already there?

The terminology you use and the insistence of ignoring factual knowledge that we have claiming "you are just wondering" or "just curious" or "just asking questions" is identical to the tactics used by conspiracy theorists and antivaxxers.

If you are persistently acting like a conspiracy theorist and antivaxxer, why are you surprised you are treated like one?

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

People wonder about the long range effects of things because we can't know them until a long time has passed. Like when the internet first became available in homes, we all had no idea that it would change society and even human psychology in the ways that it has. Do you never read about something that's fairly new and think, "I wonder how that's going to play out"? There's not currently any answer as to what new information will be revealed or what new understanding will be gained over decades to come. Only time will show us that.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's like pidgeon chess, isn't it?

Things are clear and well-studied, but people like you think that ignorance is a virtue and that something that you don't know can't be known by anyone else.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I don't think that and I didn't say that.

Actually, I'm not sure that's even relevant to anything I said.

Are you a researcher on this project? Why are you so passionately offended?

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

the other 20% did not have antibodies against HIV

the other 94% did not develop rashes.

there is no "other 14%" as the 80% and 6% most likely intersect.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 39 points 4 weeks ago

Captain Roadkill Brainworms will get right on that.

[–] PleaseLetMeOut@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 weeks ago

Either the vaccine protects you from HIV or the mRNA makes your dick fall off so you can't catch it anymore. Well played, science, well played.