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remember when they let Homer design a car?
same shit happens when users get to design software.
this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2026
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"Customers don't want it" is surprisingly difficult to understand for a lot of companies nowadays. Vivaldi must be run by some sort of language genius.
It's a private compnay, they don't have to follow shareholders so it explains it
It's really dumb but it holds true. I work for a company that profits tens of millions per year, and we're owned by one guy. I've worked at places that are owned by hedge funds or giant corporations like GE and you can just tell the difference. Here I've been told that if the shop needs something, it's basically a blank check. The owner gave everyone in the company a $3 raise last year, and we get a 10% bonus of your salary annually as a profit sharing initiative. Annual raises are good, wages are excellent, benefits are some of the best in the country and they do everything they can to keep them as a low cost. We just happen to manufacture things that nobody else in the country does.
Compared to other other more typical companies it's really night and day. I used to get a 3% annual raise and a "I can't get you more even though I want to". And some of the shittiest health insurance imaginable. My coworker broke his foot and they wouldn't wait on him until he saw a specialist like wtf he literally just needed a cast
Methinks shareholders should somehow be concerned what end users want.
Shareholders want the line to go up, currently AI is a thing that makes that happen, long-term effects be damned.
Somehow and for now
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"wants"
it's chromium, it uses ai. i think this guy wants to do marketing
This guy is my new hero.
adult person right here. true G.
I really hope Vivaldi stays good. It's basically the only browser I'm considering usable. I'll make do with something else in a pinch, but surfing the web without Vivaldi is like not having a hand.
I'm using it for stuff that doesn't work without Chromium (like a translation tool that doesn't break SPA forms) but yeah not being able to use my custom adblockers concerns me.
Same. If it weren't a Chromium browser I'd explore it more, it seems to have a lot of neat options.
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I'd use Vivaldi if it wasn't chrorium and closed source, sadly it's such a turn off
The UI layer is the only part that's closed source. Vivaldi's UI is also one of the main reasons people use it.
Yeah but de facto i still cannot see what they put in there
I, too, would use Vivaldi if it wasn't Vivaldi.
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I'm not switching to Vivaldi, but it is refreshing to see someone say "I didn't put X in the product because people don't want X in the product."
I Zen Browser and Vivaldi. Vivaldi is great.
Firefox has locally run AI features you can turn off easily. I don't see the harm. Occasionally I use the translation feature for foreign websites.
If you ask me, Firefox gets a lot of shit and it's blown completely out of proportion. Are they without flaw? Of course not, but it's not nearly as bad as people want you to believe.
AI features should be opt in, not opt out. Every time it updates it also often turns those features back on (at least a couple times for me)
The AI features are why I switched to Waterfox, as they promised to not implement the Firefox's AI-stuff. That promise has held, at least so far.
Good to know. I see they are available both on Linux and android, so all bases covered.
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Instead I switched to Waterfox which is just Firefox with all of the bullshit excluded.
The problem isn't what is in Firefox now, it's what will be in Firefox in the future. It's their clearly established predilection for mindless trend-chasing and willingness to ignore their users' clearly stated wishes in order to pack the damn thing full of crap nobody wants anyway rather than actually utilize their comparatively meager resources towards actually developing the actual browser part of the browser. That's a huge issue.
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It's hard to convince me to switch away from Firefox, but Vivaldi doesn't seem like a horrible choice if you need Chromium for WebUSB or something.
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AI is much too energy consuming to be a default option.
A good ol' browser war in the comments to get the day started :/
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