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‘A million calls an hour’: Israel relying on Microsoft cloud for expansive surveillance of Palestinians (www.theguardian.com)

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Come to Linux, it's so much better anyway

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Linux is used extensively for military and surveillance purposes. Licenses don't stop bullets.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So? There is a difference between someone using your tools for evil and actively engaging in profit seeking with said evil doer in order to make money hand over fist.

[+] chobeat@lemmy.ml -6 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Contributing to genocide for money is evil. Contributing to genocide for no money is evil and dumb.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Developer builds FOSS software free for anyone to use -> somebody evil uses it -> developer is evil by transitive property.

Is that really your take? It's called FOSS because it's free and open for anyone to use, that's the whole fucking point. So seriously, what's your actual call-to-action here?

Edit: Let's say you leave your old couch on the curb with a "free couch" sign. It happens to get picked up by the local kkk for their little clubhouse. Whoops, now you're evil and dumb, so fuck you.

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You're responsible for the technology you create. Unconstrained freedom is more often than not the freedom of the powerful to oppress the weak. Anything else is techbro ideology. FOSS ideology and techno-fascist ideology have the same roots in the freedom of information.

My call to action is unrelated to technological production, because technology doesn't solve social problems. Unionize workers in Microsoft. If you really want, build software to facilitate the construction and deployment of worker power, and stop playing around with the liberation of software. As long as it's "Free Software" instead of "Free people" you're playing on the side of the tech oligarchy.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You're responsible for the technology you create.

So if I create a knife I'm responsible if someone uses it for murder?

Maybe I should implement a camera on the knife that records your kitchen 24/7 to make sure the knife wont be used for murder, is that OK with you?

Unionize workers in Microsoft.

If you "unionize" microsoft and keep windows non-free software, the employees get better wages, apart from that the users still get spied upon, and the means of production (windows source code) still under ownership of a small group of people, (and just like any other operating system or knife, can) still used for nefarious purposes.

Even if the workers at the microsoft commune decide to made windows non-spyware anymore, there is still no way to actually be sure since there's no way to verify it.

Also, proprietary software isn't only a prime example of private ownership of the means of production, but also a prime example of artificial scarcity.

As long as it's "Free Software" instead of "Free people" you're playing on the side of the tech oligarchy.

Free software is a requirement for free people, if you don't understand that, then you really have no understanding of how technology works, of how people work and how freedom works.

I recommend reading the following article: https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html

[–] chobeat@lemmy.ml -2 points 4 months ago

The Free Software movement over the last 30+ years failed at every single one of their political goals. It's effectively a political zombie which sometimes produces barely usable software for nerds. I know perfectly well what they advocated because at some point I was close to fall for it (more than 15 years ago), but it's delusional dogmatism. The world moved on and the FOSS movement failed so bad that their enemies are now in control of an Imperial fascist government.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago

And the people who maintain it are profiting from genocide as well, or.....

[–] MajinBlayze@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism