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Fight Chat Control: The EU (still) wants to scan your private messages and photos
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They keep on trying, huh?
this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2025
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Fucking fascist French felines
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I’m sad that my country decided to vote for this shit
Chat Control
Don't know how that's related to your comment
"Contrôle des chats", ce n'était pas trop drôle
Putain j’ai cru que tu tapais sur les français pour rien
The title of another submission explains what it is:
Danish programmer built a website to highlight every single EU members’ stance on the new mass surveillance tool Chat Control 2.0 and its implications for you as a citizen in the European Union
They should also show the persistent proponents of these laws. Last i heard they were very much trying to keep their names anonymous.
Who are those persistent proponents?
No joke, when asked about it, they produced a PDF page with a table full of black redacted squares. And by full I mean every single cell was blacked out.
Do you have a source?
Sure, knock yourself out.
https://old.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1l2655n/the_eu_commission_refuses_to_disclose_the/
Lots of on-topic discussion, with links to many, many site, including official ones, clearly angling for the "it's for your safety" proposal.
Great!
Ah got ya, it's a site to show each EU government's position on this. Only three EU governments are opposing right now! Gotta get them numbers up!
Tell that to PC gaming right now. Everyone is more than happy to install kernel level spyware to play a game.
People sacrificing privacy for security, sad how much things changed this century.
They're sacrificing privacy for playing a video game with moderately less cheaters sometimes when that works, not for security.
And although sacrificing privacy is rarely good, I believe there are some situations that could be acceptable. Playing a video game isn't one of these (to me at least…).
Yeah, you have to be braindead trust a game developer with any kernel level software.
I think a more secure solution would be some kind of virtualized environment to run the game within, which the developer could have full control over, but I doubt that will ever come about.
A more secure solution would be to implement proper security server side, use simple (and cheap!) heuristics to weed out impossible movements and actions, not offload critical gameplay processing client side, and only send relevant data. Some, if not most of that, was how things were done before. No way to teleport wherever, no way to see people across the whole map, and so on. It would not be perfect, but no solution is. It, however, would be very easy to upgrade, and not be a privacy shit-show. But that requires a bit more work from the devs, so I guess the only solution is to give absolute total control over our devices to them.
I can't wait to see the moment we get cheap devices good enough to process in realtime video input and produce adequates outputs. Get that enclosed in a device that acts as a passthrough KVM for the display, but auto-correct user aim, movement, toggles, etc. As long as there's a market, I'm sure people will think about it.
Good luck detecting that with any kind of client-side anti-cheat.
It's some sort of security (no cheaters). As a linux user I am a bit bitter because I wanted to play the new battlefield but oh well, my tendonitis appreciates that.
Nothing new, in the olden days people were lured into helping foreign (or not) intelligence services by gambling debts, honey traps, even simply impressions of doing that work.
Money, women, feeling of freedom\power. But that was limited to specific situations.
Now we all exist connected to a system allowing systems of reward and punishment of any arbitrary level of sophistication. So those are used to great effect.
Mark Zuckerberg, despite being a bitch, is a visionary. He's a psychology major, BTW. Such things, when people accomplished in some area achieve a lot in a rapidly developing different one, should be noticed, that's where all the important change is. Everything sufficiently new is a triangle, like a syllogism.
So. Money + games = gambling. Computers + gambling = gambling machine. Internet + social instincts = the Web. Gambling machine + the Web = whatever we live in, in the dimension described, which would be money.
One can also describe a similar process for the other two things. Yes, feeling of freedom\power too.
So. We live in a time where willpower and lack thereof is the most important factor. We have all the technology needed to build a thousand heavens for most common tastes. But we also have humans lacking willpower and vulnerable to knowledge of human psychology applied immorally.
So the question of solving social problems with technical means, which was contentious since Renaissance, has already been resolved. That's why our world looks like receding into global middle ages, in some sense it is - technical progress as an answer to everything has ran out, and people around us find new gods for themselves.
I'm optimistic, while I agree with the answer to that question, I also think that experience gained along the way will help.
is there a localized version? for example, in Italian?
older people do not speak English, if there where localized versions this would reach a much broader audience.
Seems some are on summer break, so it’ll sadly probably all blend together once they get back, but worth shooting the shot nonetheless
Time to buy stock in a foreign VPS company, eh? There's datacenters in Mexico. Lets go, hombres!
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