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I was thinking about those outfits celebrities wear that mess with flash photography equipment, and I was watching a dude on TV just now whose shirt pattern was going apeshit because of the camera, and I wondered if there could ever be a pattern or material that, when filmed, caused the camera irreversible damage. And if that were physically possible, I wondered if intentionally showing up to camera-heavy events wearing said shirt would constitute a crime on my part.

It's just a shirt after all. It's not like I'm grabbing a camera and smashing it on the ground. But at the same time, I know it will have that effect, so I'm accountable. But it's not like my shirt is emitting damaging laser beams or anything, it's entirely passive.

Also, is there anything like this scenario in real life/law?

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago

OK you're going to need CO2 gas, 2 mirrors, a glass. Container and a high voltage capacitor.

...
Step 3454674) charge the capacitor to 60078V.

Step 5746678) now run!

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 32 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Might not cause damage but there is the Camera Shy Hoodie: https://www.macpierce.com/the-camera-shy-hoodie

Instructions for how to DIY provided, so it doesn't have to be a hoodie.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Although that really only works as long as the camera doesn't have an IR filter in place.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 0 points 3 hours ago

this is really a stupid question

[–] xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Strap a lidar emitter to yourself. Those car sensors have been shown to damage cameras.

If you want privacy from cameras, there are those hats with strong ir leds. Not sure how well they work.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 0 points 7 hours ago

But what if I just want to buy one?

I don't have time to make my own; I have a job.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 61 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

What you describe is simply not possible with a passive material. Funnily your example of something shooting lasers is probably the only thing that could come close to actual damage

The most you can do is one of those adversarial patterns that just confuses the white balance and autofocus. There is nothing you can do to affect someone shooting in manual mode

If you could damage a camera by pointing it at something, the manufacturer would fix the issue before selling it, because no one is buying a camera that does.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 21 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

If you could damage a camera by pointing it at something, the manufacturer would fix the issue before selling it, because no one is buying a camera that does.

Recently, there were news about the LIDAR of Volvo cars destroying camera sensors when they were aimed into the direction of the IR laser beam. Yet, this is not a passive item.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Even that was debated. No one proved it continued when you took another video, just that it broke the video of the lidar itself.

[–] Skysurfer@slrpnk.net 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Here is a video demonstrating the lidar killing pixels in a phone camera sensor.

They also tried cameras on other vehicles but those were not affected, only the cellphone aimed directly at the lidar suffered damage.

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

So I tried watching it and never saw them close the camera app or restart the phone, so again, waiting on some actual proof with some science behind it rather than "dude totally said so". That only proves that the software controlling the picture adjustments has been sent out of whack(as evidenced by the fact that it would show true colors eventually when pointed at something else). If the pixels were "dead", they wouldn't reset. We have a separate phrase for that. It's "stuck pixel".

It's the same effect as being in a truely white lit room and everything looks orange in a camera. It's the color correction when you shine a crazy bright light at the sensor. It assumes you're on the sun and adjusts accordingly.

[–] Periodicchair@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I am thinking if you could wear a mirror that would direct all the sunlight right at the camera. That would have to be an active tracking system, but wouldn't emit any light itself.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It would have to be parabolic and yeah as you suggest you would either need a big robotic rig to aim it or you would have to be very very obvious with your intent to damage given there's pretty much only one specific place a given parabolic mirror can be to damage something else.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Parabolic would only work if the camera is in the focal point, so you'd need a different part of the parabola or a different parabola depending on where you are standing relative to the camera. This is in addition to the aiming mechanism.

And even then, I'm not convinced it will damage all camera techs instead of just overexposing the image or frame for some. If they just clamp the affected pixels instead of trying to maintain the relative brightness, they might be able to still see your face clearly.

[–] phonics@lemmy.world 89 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

if you invent some passive way to damage tech by just being in its vicinity. not only would it be illegal. it would be a super weapon.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 56 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

A weapon to surpass metal gear?

[–] MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca 15 points 15 hours ago

Snake?!

Snaaaaaake!!!

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

A weapon to defeat metal gear

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

How better to surpass something than to defeat it?

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[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

How they gonna find out? No cameras to witness it

[–] phonics@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] CIA_chatbot@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Eyes aren’t electric…… unless your a bird

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

bro's got the level 9 EMP aura

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 18 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

My dude is trying to create a shirt that just continuously recharges and fires EMPs lol

[–] cloudless@piefed.social 23 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
  1. Create sentient AI
  2. Let AI take control of the internet upon receiving the QR code
  3. Wear your t-shirt containing the QR code, show it to a camera connected to the internet
  4. Now AI takes over the world

Black Mirror S7E4 - Plaything

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Is that Doctor Who?

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

That was an episode that ended right where it started getting good. Not that the episode was bad before that, but it left me wanting more of that, not a jump to a new premise in the next episode.

[–] remon@ani.social 27 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (3 children)

It's not possible to damage cameras passively, so there isn't an answer. But if it was possible it probably would be made illegal to wear those around cameras.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

More like illegal to wear anywhere in the USA considering that we're quickly becoming a surveillance state.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 6 points 14 hours ago

Quickly?

Every country is already a surveillance state, and has been for multiple decades.

Just look at Britain with cameras everywhere since at least the 1980's.

Fucking Ring crap just doubled down on it, and idiot people don't even care they're providing the means. 1984 nailed it.

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[–] ODuffer@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago
[–] MoonManKipper@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

I think it depends on whether it’s active or passive. Active - e.g. a laser that damages a camera sensor, then yes, your device is actively damaging someone else’s camera - deliberate property damage. Passive - e.g. reflective strips so the exposure is bad, a pattern that is hard to focus on or similar- that’s fine - camera owner is making a decision to expose their gear to the environment. Even if, say, it’s a changing pattern that deceives the autofocus into working constantly (no, I don’t know exactly how that would work, but it’s the best I can think of at short notice) so it wears out faster.

[–] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 12 points 15 hours ago

It depends a lot where your story happens. Laws are quite different.

In my country, this little detail would save you ....

it's not like my shirt is emitting damaging laser beams or anything, it's entirely passive.

... unless you were deliberately wearing this for the purpose of doing such damage, and somebody could prove that.

[–] BlackLaZoR@fedia.io 10 points 16 hours ago

Yes it would be. You're wearing it with clear intent of damaging equipment.

[–] four@lemmy.zip 9 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There, technically, hypothetically, could be a situation where such shirt is possible. But it would require a bug in the camera firmware, which would probably work on just one camera model. For example, a shirt with a pattern that tricks the camera into detecting more faces than it was designed to, causing a buffer overflow and a crash. Reasonable, although extremely unlikely

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

I rolled my eyes at your optimism that such a material would exist but I took it all back by the end. Despite it being incredibly niche and unrealistic, that is by far the most clever suggestion in the thread!

[–] iii@mander.xyz 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I was watching a dude on TV just now whose shirt pattern was going apeshit because of the camera

Probably aliasing aka moiré effect. Harmless to the equipment.

Also, is there anything like this scenario in real life/law?

Speed bumps do something similar? Entirely passive, harmless, untill encountering certain equipment - a vehicle.

[–] brokenlcd@feddit.it 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Best i can do is an Elton John style jacket. Dazzle them to hell and back.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Invent?!? Bro, just use infrared LEDs 😂

[–] remon@ani.social 8 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Not passive. Won't damage cameras.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yes not passive but you're not thinking big enough.

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[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

No, but you will basically look like a bloomed-out version of this:

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

This is my thought: unless everyone uses it, they just have to track the one glowing dude. Eventually you'll be in front of a camera or person who will identify you clearly, and it will be that much easier because you're glowing.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Damaging a camera is very different from something that makes taking a picture impossible. It doesn't matter if it is passive or active, only the end result is important.

A celebrity might get away with it when just trying to get home but would probably be required to pay for damage to the camera. Anyone at a large venue is going to be ruining everyone's cameras and that would be a huge deal.

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