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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (4 children)

This is the obvious course for a party that isn't yet totally brain-dead. They will reach out to Mamdani, and try a million different ways of reigning him in.

And the truth is that everyone has a price.

It may not be cold hard money, but it's impossible to climb the political ladder without at some point making deals with the devils.

Just how much of his soul is left is the big question, because something needs to change...

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And the truth is that everyone has a price.

It is not a truth. What's true is that weak people pretend to be strong to win. Identifying genuine believers will avoid co-opting of the platform.

Weak willed liars fold at a price because they were always in it for the money. Some people want change will be damned if they are obstructed. The way Mamdani talks about our problems and then correctly lays out a systemic solution has sold me on him being genuine. He's an incredible person who is poised to change the American political landscape.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Partially true. Mamdani could still compromise to get things done. It depends where he draws his line for compromise. For example he said he will discourage the term "globalize the intifada" but he never used it to begin with.

[–] beetus@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Politics is compromise. To suggest otherwise is to ask for something other than fair political representation.

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, not everyone does have a price. The weak and unprincipled have a price.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You're either extremely naive, or never considered an ethical dilemma in your blessed life.

[–] Derpenheim@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have. It seems you, too, have, and are unsatisfied with your choice. Next time make a better one.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I qualified my statement about being bought fairly well, suggesting it could happen piece by piece through political deals.

Your replies have been "nuh uh", and then bumping your head into the mother of all non sequitur. I guess that's something to take from this conversation.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

The price of denying policies Zohran supports is more costly in the long run, and everyone knows that. It's just some people look at the futures and desire the barbaric one.

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

AOC said they’re doing the same shit to her. Fortunately she sees right through it as I’m sure Mamdani will/does

[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So, if obama didnt call him, its because he is against him. But obama called him, so he must be manipulating him. No other reason why....

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't think there was a person on the planet wondering why Obama didn't call him.

[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

I know, its because he didnt panick.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sounds a lot like what Obama was pissed about establishment democrats trying to do to him in 2008.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

Yeah

Of course, he immediately stopped being pissed about that the day after election day, brought all those establishment Democrats right into his administration, and presided over things like Rahm Emmanuel telling a bunch of Code Pink anti Iraq war activists who has helped GOTV to stop being "fucking retarded" by making public demands that members of the Bush administration were held accountable for their war crimes,

But at least he was smart enough to understand that allowing establishment voices to campaign with him would have lost him votes

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Anyone that thinks they can manipulate him obviously hasn't seen his music video.

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I wish Obama would have done more earlier to calm the establishment Dems on Mamdani…

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago

But back then Obama thought his establushment friends might still beat Mamdani so he didn't worry about it.