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[–] ctry21@sh.itjust.works 7 points 16 hours ago

This is from the Age Verification Providers Association, who have a vested interest in forcing more and more people to use age verification. Most of these companies charge per check performed so they're losing money every time we use a VPN to bypass it. I wouldn't trust a thing they say, but it is worrying that they're pushing to go further because they were successful lobbying for the age verification checks in the first place, and our tech secretary is an idiot. If they do convince the government to pass a law forcing companies to try and detect VPN usage, that will be devastating for online privacy even outside of the UK. That they now want websites to ask for a users location is quite scary.

[–] ignirtoq@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago

Some argue that because VPNs exist, any age assurance system will fail. This leads to the mistaken belief that age-restricted sites are exempt from compliance if users connect through a VPN. As we have argued before, this is not true. Legislation we have reviewed globally, including the UK’s Online Safety Act (2023) and similar meaaures[sic] in Australia or US states, offers no such exemption.

This seems a bit disingenuous. This is conflating legal exemption (i.e. the law explicitly providing an out) with enforceability. Is anyone seriously arguing that because of the existence of VPNs that their use to circumvent the law therefore makes that act of circumvention legal?

The article goes on to explain technical mechanisms by which websites can determine whether someone is likely to be accessing the site from the UK despite using a VPN (all of which become statistical and not certain conclusions, as well as require gathering suspiciously identifying information the user has not consented to supplying), but that really sidesteps the crux of the conversation. Experts in cyber security have been railing against this law and others like it for a while, with solid evidence that they don't have the effect proponents claim (that is, make the Internet safer for children), and in fact can make the Internet more dangerous for minors. So the question is then: is violating this law civically unethical?

[–] higgsboson@piefed.social 1 points 16 hours ago

Propaganda.

[–] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 4 points 1 day ago

Boo. You are right, I just hate the facts.