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I personally cringe when I hear a friend js having a kid. All I can think of is how bad theyre going to have it. Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier, but these new kids are REALLY screwed unless they have super rich parents.

"Nothing new under the sun" I suppose!

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yup. Between climate collapse, wealth shift to the ultra wealthy, and the global surge in popularity of right wing extremist authoritarianism, I don't see things improving any time soon.

Things are rapidly degrading, and intentionally dropping a child into the dumpster fire we're turning our planet into is an act of cruelty and selfishness that few others measure up to.

Having a vasectomy was probably the best decision I've made - not for my sake, but the kid's and any even less fortunate grandkids and so on.

 

My own parents have finally fucked off a bit about when their grandchildren are coming, and lecturing me on how I'm cheating myself out of life's greatest joy or some shit... I think current events have finally become so glaringly bad that even they can't ignore it, but reminding them constantly about how unfair that would be for the kid was so fucking tiring.

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[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People be fucking.

There were kids conceived and born during the Holocaust.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

"Hey, baby. Wanna fight eugenics?"

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

More grist for the mill.

[–] StrixUralensis@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hell id definitely have been better off being born 20 years earlier

You personally, maybe. But a lot of other people no. I'm thinking about disease we found and will find cures for, acceptation of differences (gender, neurodiversity etc...), advancement in prosthetic technologies and all the other things.

As history advances some people will be better of, some less and the tides always turn.

[–] FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

How does OP know he'd be better off? He could have died of AIDS in 1995. That shit happened all the time.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I was a kid, there was a hole in the ozone layer and we were just going to be blown up by a nuclear war, or get AIDS.

It's always been the end times.

So no, I don't worry that much about kids. I do wish that embodiment was not a forced choice, you can't ask a baby if they would like to be born. I'm sure there are planets where the 'people' have a much harder time than we do here. Sure I am incredibly angry that we are squandering this glorious advantage we have so soon. But no I am not sorry for the kids of the future and also the past really sucked for most people, you can't compare a hard life of the near future to some idealized imaginary easy life of the past.

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[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Partly yes.
If I could choose, I would take 10 years earlier than I was actually born.
At least I could have experienced the early internet for longer.

[–] EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Having a child in 2025 is just plain selfish.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I definitely would not want a child now. I believe the uncertainty of the speed of climate change and the global suffering that comes with it all would be a terrible burden for everyone.

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Yes, I felt a deep-seated disappointment when my siblings or friends announced their pregnancy. People like to spout the cliche that every generation is born into crisis but the conditions this one is inheriting are particularly dire.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

I used to.

Kids have never been something I never saw myself having. I have nephews and nieces and I used to worry about them.

They’ve grown up a bit and the kids are actually doing alright. In my family they are all loved and they’re well behaved kids.

They’re getting proper diagnoses and treatment for their adhd that my brothers and I probably should have gotten as kids. Instead we all got countless detentions and suspensions in school.

School these days is kind of a mess, but my nieces and nephews all have parents who step in and help. The biggest thing for one who was getting bullied was switching schools, it was a total 180 in his life after leaving that environment.

The omnipresent tech and AI stuff is a mess too. I think having involved and caring parents helps a lot with that. It’s harder to fall into the traps when you have good examples in life. Hopefully that keeps up.

As for money/job prospects that was a huge concern when I was coming of age too. 2008 fucked everything up. This too shall pass the youth job market has always been tough for the last 25 years. They’ll figure it out with a bit of help. They’re not doomed here. As long as there are people there will be needs to fill.

I do worry about the climate. I don’t know how to help with that. I try to do good but it’s beyond my control to stop. All we can do is try to mitigate and adapt.

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