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[–] boor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Why would anyone want an editor that doesn’t fact check?

[–] toeblast96@sh.itjust.works 46 points 6 days ago (3 children)

tbh i somehow didnt even realize that wikipedia is one of the few super popular sites not trying to shove ai down my throat every 5 seconds

i'm grateful now

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't count your chickens before they hatch, Jimmy Wales founded Wikipedia and already used ChatGPT in a review process once according to this article.

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

To all our readers on Lemmy,

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[–] ramsay@lemmy.world 71 points 6 days ago (9 children)

I will stop donating to Wikipedia if they use AI

[–] Corn@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wikipedia already has a decades operating cost of savings.

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No they don't because they blast it on inflated exec wages.

[–] miasmati@lemmings.world 9 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Why don't they blast execs and reduce the expenses.

[–] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Just got back from asking them. They said they like cash moneys and don't like blasting themselves.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

This is such a tiresome aspect of society. Even if you believe in executives, they certainly don’t need to get paid more than anyone else.

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[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

He can also stick AI inside his own ass

[–] Caketaco@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Christ, I miss when I could click on an article and not be asked to sign up for it.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Oh, right! Thanks for reminding me. I tried to archive it the last time but it took forever.

Edit. There ya' go: https://archive.is/oWcIr

[–] Yaztromo@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

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[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

As I have adblock mostly because of the abuse of trackers, I understand people trying to monetize their work.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Journalists monetizing their work is totally reasonable. The problem for me is that it seems unfair to ask that literally everyone trying to read an article have to sign up. Maybe I’m missing something.

[–] lens0021@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 days ago

He is nobody to Wikipedia now. He also failed to create a news site and a micro SNS.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Not sure about Wikipedia, but Conservapedia would find it very useful. In fact, since most of their entries are factually incorrect and appear as fantasy I think AI writing articles would save them a lot of time.

Bonus: hallucinations can help create new conspiracy theories!

[–] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 6 days ago
[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Important context: he’s not suggesting AIs writing content for Wikipedia. He’s suggesting using AI to provide feedback for new editors. Take that how you will.

(From another discussion on this.)

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 5 points 5 days ago

Right, which makes it just as bad. Wikipedia had enough proofreaders. You don't need AI for that, because the need is already filled.

This is entirely different from a book writer who is going everything solo and has exactly one publishing window.

And writing feedback software has existed for decades. So AI adds nothing new. Again it is snake oil. It is always snake oil. Except when it's bait and switch, to pretend it wasn't snake oil in the first place.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

So I fed the page to ChatGPT to ask for advice. And I got what seems to me to be pretty good. And so I'm wondering if we might start to think about how a tool like AFCH might be improved so that instead of a generic template, a new editor gets actual advice. It would be better, obviously, if we had lovingly crafted human responses to every situation like this, but we all know that the volunteers who are dealing with a high volume of various situations can't reasonably have time to do it. The templates are helpful - an AI-written note could be even more helpful.

This actually sounds like a plausibly decent use for an LLM. Initial revision to take some of the load off from the human review process isn't a bad idea - he isn't advocating for AI to write articles, just that it can be useful for copy-editing and potentially supplement a system already heavy in Go/No Go evaluations.

Which is weird, really. Jimmy Wales is just fucking awful. I didn't realize he was anatomically capable of not talking out of his ass.

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