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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 39 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

"we've come to realize that people knowing stuff is a real problem for our agenda."

[–] localhorst@sh.itjust.works 4 points 49 minutes ago

"Reality has a well-known liberal bias."

[–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 1 points 48 minutes ago

why doesn't wikipedia just move out of the US?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 10 points 2 hours ago

Ever since Covid19 I heard people saying "Wikipedia is not objective". Initially, a hard argument to go against, but my ultimate answer is this:
Encyclopedia Britannica is not objective either. No *pedia is, online or otherwise. Nothing is. And still Wikipedia is one of the best options out there, not lastly because of how it's organised. [That said, it does have - usually right-wing - strong bias in places, esp. non-English content which would need more eyes.]

I'm not surprised this is now mainstream MAGA speak.

I just hope Wikipedia is still international enough so that its content is ultimately out of the US government's reach.

They already have Conservapedia (click and weep), let them enjoy and contribute to it!

[–] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago

FUCK THESE GUYS

[–] OboTheHobo@ttrpg.network 48 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (5 children)

Fyi everyone: you can download the entirety of Wikipedia yourself from kiwix and it's only about 50gb for the whole thing, 100 with all images.

[–] turdburglar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

got a link or instructions? i’ll do it tomorrow as the next step on my self hosting journey.

[–] agroqirax@lemmy.world 9 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Docker setup instructions: github.com/kiwix/kiwix-tools/docker/server/README.md

Download zim files from library.kiwix.org via direct download, torrent or magnet.

[–] turdburglar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

There is also apps like Aard2 that allow you to have all of wikipedia (no images duh) offline on your phone. https://github.com/itkach/aard2-android

Its a general dictionary type app so it supports things other than wikipedia too. There is a link to the dictionary files in the readme on that github, but it can be confusing.

If you have 23GB of space and your storage isnt fat32 formatted: https://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/aarddict/enwiki/enwiki20250801-slob/

If it is fat32 then you gotta download it in 4GB chunks: https://ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/aarddict/enwiki/enwiki20250801-vol-slob/

The downside to this is that i (you?) often want very recent fresh info from wikipedia and this obviously doesnt work well for that because it doesnt support updating in a way where you only have to download the changes. If somebody knows of an app that supports this, where you only have to download a couple MB of changes every day to keep the entire thing up to date let me know.

[–] turdburglar@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

sweet.

alas, internet friend, i’m old enuf to have had printed (gasp) encyclopedias purchased new in 1985, so i can cope with static data just fine.

i am curious, nonetheless - i see these are dated pretty recently. are these ftps updated with some kind of regularity so i can continue to dl them up until all knowledge gets banned for being too inclusive and woke and something something?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Always glad to share cool projects :)

If you go up to the parent directory of the links i sent it shows the last couple versions (20250801, 20250601, 20250201, 20241201) so it gets updated every few months yes. I believe the URL has stayed the same for the past decade or so too, so it should be fairly easy to automate that even.

[–] turdburglar@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

you’re a champion among lemmings.

thank you my friend :)

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 121 points 12 hours ago (13 children)

Quick question, honest question......

At what point are the right happy?

Because the left will be happy when everybody has equal rights, and a high standard of living for everyone.

So, if that's the lefts benchmark of a great society, what's the right fighting towards? Money? Power? Control?

Then what?

When is America "great again"?

Because they've been pushing that slogan since the 80s. What's the endgame here?

Because from where I'm sitting, there is no endgame. Nothing will ever make them happy. Nothing will ever be good enough. So what the fuck is the point?

[–] manxu@piefed.social 3 points 58 minutes ago

Happiness is not shared as a goal. For some people, happiness is so distant, the only thing achievable is to make everyone else equally misérable. Think Fundie Christians talking about the Valley of Tears.

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

Fascism, as an ideology, is utterly fascinating to look at sometimes. It strikes so many wildly different mental chords that you can get lost trying to understand the minds of its believers and followers without even trying to, all while just drinking your morning coffee.

At what point are the right happy?

To answer this, it is utterly critical to mention that Fascism, as an ideology, is fundamentally predicated upon the idea that the Fascist "In-Group" is better than whatever "Out-Group" they are focused on at any given moment (Jewish people, LGBT+, Black people, Mexicans, etc.). To that end, they will stop at NOTHING to crush, oppress, exterminate, and ultimately obliterate that Out-Group completely, all the while screaming to their fellows and to anyone that will listen that the Out-Group is simultaneously infinitely weak and easy to crush, as well as insurmountably strong and impossible to resist. This contradiction allows them to drive themselves into a frenzy, by pissing each other off, as well as draw in new recruits who hear about the Out-Group as "weak" and decide they want to get in on it. Meanwhile, anyone who thinks deeper about this contradiction more easily writes off their movement as sloppy, reactionary, and ultimately harmless, since they clearly don't know anything, letting them amass real public support under the radar for DECADES; we've seen this in America, with Fox News doing tons of heavy lifting for almost 50 years now in the Fascist PR department. It WORKS.

Once the In and Out-Groups are established, and public support starts to amass, the Fascists move to take public office, often starting in smaller, local elections that nobody runs for, elections that they can get a bunch of their buddies in the In-Group to vote for. Once they achieve public office, they try to continue ascending the public ranks to further their group's political legitimacy, often forming alliances and coalitions with other right-wing and conservative groups to garner additional support in the legislature. For a historical example, the actual Nazis did this in Weimar Germany, starting as a fringe group in local elections, slowly climbing the ranks and gathering support, and ultimately working with other conservatives to seize power. Once sufficiently embedded in the system, they start purging members who aren't sufficiently zealous and loyal to the In-Group, now a Political Party, and continue raging about the Out-Group, but on a state-side, or even national scale.

At this point, several things can happen. If there isn't strong enough leadership in the party, it can splinter into a bunch of factions that hate each other, but still work together because they hate the Out-Group more. If there IS strong leadership in the Party, then they tend to make a mad grab for power, and consolidate it as much as they can. We saw this with Jan 6, Germany saw it with The Night of The Long Knives. Should this fail, the whole Party may very well self-destruct from infighting.

Now, you may ask, "what does any of this have to do with my question???" Remember, the entire time they've been climbing the political ladder, they've been raging at the Out-Group constantly, whipping themselves ever higher into a frenzy, garnering more and more support as they gather legitimacy in local elections. And now that they've made their mad grab for power, should it succeed, they can actually ACT on all their rhetoric that more rational, level-headed people wrote off at the beginning.

It starts with outright oppression, the boot of the state on the neck of the masses, usually focused on the Out-Group, but everyone feels it. Then it escalates, usually into mass-confinement and deportation of the Out-Group, while the oppression on everyone else gets worse. But as the rhetoric never ends, so too must the escalation; Extermination. Once the suffering and deportation of the Out-Group isn't enough, always they turn to extermination. And once the Out-Group is gone...

Well, they'll just find a new one. And another. And another. Over and over, until there's only one group left, after all the purging and expulsion and deportation and death - the In-Group. But they won't stop there. No, they keep going, denoting various internal factions as the Out-Group, targets to purge and exterminate. Constantly, accelerating as the numbers get smaller, until the whole Party explodes.

So. To answer your question, the Right will NEVER be happy, no matter how hard or how many Out-Group members they purge and exterminate. Because Fascism doesn't have an endpoint where the In-Group """wins""". The entire ideology is fundamentally predicated on that singular idea, that the In-Group is better than the Out-Group, and the Out-Group MUST be destroyed, no matter what, and any questioning of that directive brands you a traitor to the Party and a member of the Out-Group. They'll continue down that road, purging and screaming and oppressing and exterminating until the only thing left is a room of Party leader corpses full of bullets from each other's guns. Or until they're stopped. Whichever comes first.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 27 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

At what point are the right happy?

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Also, they want streets full of Kluxers.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

"ITS DANKESCHÖN VERDAMMT! YOU ARE BUTCHERING MY BEAUTIFUL LANGUAGE!" - wolfenstein

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Holy shit. I'm bad at telling if AI is obvious sometimes. Is this real? It has swastikas (obviously) but it also has the american flag.

Is this 1930s? Or 2020s?

God. The fact I even have to ask is in itself a reflection of where we are as a society I guess.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 7 points 2 hours ago

Very real, as the other comment says. Nazism was big in the US in the yeas before WW2

Many “great” pictures can be found online

[–] oppy1984@lemdro.id 16 points 3 hours ago

There was a pro-nazi movement in the U.S. in the 1930's. They had a nazi rally in Madison Square Garden. The nazis went underground for the most part after the U.S. entered WW2.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 2 hours ago

NS Fascism had several ties to the USA, not least Hitler himself admiring and copying tons of ideas. Esp. their Eugenics movement.

So, what I mean is common roots before 1933 and initially strong support after he got to power.

I'd like to back this up with a suitable article but I can't find one rn.

Once they've dismantled all progress made towards equality, and they control all the resources again.

People think this is a new fight, but it's really the same one that we've been fighting forever. We just got too comfortable, and thought we couldn't lose so much progress so quickly.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

Extremists are never satisfied, they always want more. They are basically stuck on a stupid loop and just jump to the next demand when they get what they want.

We even have a special name for the current crew. They are called white extremists.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

At what point are the right happy?

ENDLÖSUNG

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

I don't know but I'm guessing there is a MASS GENOCIDE involved at some point.

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[–] Soup@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago

The very rich will never be happy. If a billion dollars doesn’t make them happy, what the fuck will? They just want the ability to impose whatever shitty will they have upon everyone and because it will hurt a lot of people they are constantly afraid and that fear leads to them doing even more horrible things.

It’s a feedback loop that pushes them to do worse and worse things.

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 65 points 11 hours ago

They can’t be happy. The whole platform is to take the country back to before all of society started conspiring against the poor republican voter.

The big lie is that the dog can never catch the car because it isn’t trans people or immigrants or minorities that are oppressing republicans. It’s their politicians, the corruption that is ingrained into the system, and the rich that fight to keep the system rigged that are oppressing them and clearly republicans will never fix that

[–] thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca 35 points 11 hours ago

They will never be happy.

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[–] TechnoCat@lemmy.ml 133 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They're butthurt their changes to Wikipedia about Israel got removed for no citations.

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[–] teft@piefed.social 126 points 13 hours ago

Reality has a notable liberal bias so not surprising.

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