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For months, Google has maintained that the web is “thriving,” AI isn’t tanking traffic, and its search engine is sending people to a wider variety of websites than ever. But in a court filing from last week, Google admitted that “the open web is already in rapid decline” (with regard to advertising, kinda-sorta)

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[–] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Misleading title.

By the way, if you still want to use google's search engine but want to avoid the AI stuff, see https://udm14.com/ or just add &udm=14 to your search query

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[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 39 points 2 days ago
[–] shutz@lemmy.ca 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They admitted, with obvious glee

[–] artifex@piefed.social 24 points 2 days ago

You can tell they’re scared of it because they immediately tried to retract/clarify the statement.

Though IDK why they’d care this point since the Supreme Court already declared Google a monopoly and turned around and said they weren’t abusive enough and gave them no punishment.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 days ago

That's a weird way to spell "celebrates".

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

More like Google/Alphabet is doing what it can to close up the net, and hopes that openness on the net goes into decline.

They already squeezed the open net for all its worth.

[–] lanky_ginger@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

Fucking corporate double-speak...

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 days ago

They denied it until the instant doing so was inconvenient to them.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Bye bye internet. Hello splinternet.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Essentially.

The fediverse, small-web, ubb-boards, xda, and parts of the darkweb, as well as places like 4chan all belong to a sort-of bound community.

Facebook, Google, Tiktok, Instagram etc make up the mainsteam internet with Tumblr and Reddit on the sidelines.

It's getting worse, it even trickles down to software choices and piracy. Choose Linux and trust the community, run Kodi and fight constant update breakage on Youtube and corporate streaming solutions when Jellyfin and samba shares just work?

At what point does their world of influence become seemingly worse than ours by default and everyone just ignores them? Will the giants allow themselves to be ignored? I believe they will eventually make self-sufficiency impossible. Somehow, some day, you won't have any of these choices and everyone will be nickle and dimed to death until the entire internet is an unskippable full-screen ad.

From some mobile-only average working Joes out there, that's all it already is.

[–] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm from the 90s Internet. Geocities. Tripod. Webrings. My awesome gothy co-worker staying late after work to update her vampire fan-fiction site because hardly anyone had a computer and the boss let her use the company's windows 95 machine.

We are categorically lazier as a culture now than then. I expect things to enshittify further until we collectively take responsibility and accountability for our own culture, engagement and entertainment online. As we used to. We need more stupid web tricks, this place used to have all sorts of public art and weird monuments to human quirkiness.

Until they take away from us the ability to purchase a 10$ domain, use DNS, and make HTML forbidden knowledge, anyone can be out there contributing. I realize, however, that most will not; I've recently started getting wide eyed stares of amazement because I have my own domain and use it for my email address, so we seem to be sliding further...

Not sure how we fix this.

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[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 days ago

Google concern trolls the open web

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok, well our backup is safe yeah ? So, good, it should burn down to the fucking ground,
Topple DNS tyranny, blow up the CDNs, let datacenters become dilapidated, let the 101 rooms go unstaffed

After the fire maybe something not quite as malevolent will grow in the ashes

[–] artifex@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well at least there’s the fediverse, onion routing, nostr ID management, simplex and others. It’s not quite a Plan B, and definitely takes some effort, but is much much better than nothing.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I tried TOR earlier this year, and the 3 minute pageloads that timeout 3/4 of the time, were very off putting.
I hope we can do better

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

TOR is rough, i2p is rough, ipfs is nearly dead

Gemini protocol is lit and fast but dead. it's like a fancier version of gopher.

If we could all move over to gemini, i'd be stoked, no javascript, limited cgi bin opporunities

[–] artifex@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like the Internet in the 90s.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nah, I had a 14400 bauds modem and even then it was never this slow
I went to the dread forum and maybe got 4 page loads in 15 minutes
simply unusable unless you really really need it and already know exactly what you need, where it is, and how to click as few links as possible to get there. And even then, reading single threads is an hours long task.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 39 minutes ago) (1 children)

Modem starts dialing up. Everything is going fine, attempting 28.8k negotiation... failed. Okay, now I'm listening to 19.2k negotiation... failed again? Ugh, ok, 14.4k... no? Jesus fuck. Please let me at least have 9600...

Edit: typoes

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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 10 points 2 days ago

“…Muahahaha!” they continued…

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