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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Cool. I'm going out on a limb and saying Bluesky seems pretty based so far. I made an account when it was announced, and it's pretty cool. Nice app, seemingly good mission statement.

I don't want to dismiss something until it actually turns to shit. If it's good now, I'll use it now. When it turns to crap, I'll just jump off. I'll always have Lemmy and Mastodon as my mains, so I don't see the harm personally. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ Let's just hope it'll last for the scientists' sake.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Problem is it absolutely will turn when the Bluesky owners Jay Graber and Jack Dorsey decide it's time to cash in. The project started out as a way to start decentralizing twitter, but they never actually accomplished that goal.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jack Dorsey has nothing to do with Bluesky

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aside from being its founder. I know he left the board, but I haven't seen any reason to believe he gave up ownership rights.

[–] Virkkunen@fedia.io 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Leaving the board of directors is pretty much as giving up ownership rights. He has nothing to do with Bluesky anymore and he makes us sure he doesn't want to.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It means he doesn't directly manage it. Proof that he sold his ownership to somebody else would be evidence of giving up ownership rights.

Leaving the board of directors means no day to day control, but he could still exert influence on a shareholders vote.

[–] hulfpa@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why are they selecting BlueSky over the Fediverse?

[–] fubarx@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

The Fediverse experience starts with an unanswerable question: what server do you want to be on?

Most people will not have any way to answer that without knowing what the downstream impact will be. Mastodon people are working on smoothing that down, but it's still a pretty fraught question. And if half a given community ends up on one server and half on another, they get fragmented and conversations and followers fizzle out.

Bluesky wants to tell people they're not a single-node lock-in to avoid the Twitter effect, but it turns out that's their key advantage.

The only thing that will guarantee they don't end up like Twitter is if they revamp their corporate governance mechanisms, but they had to take VC money and haven't come up with a long-term revenue model, so it's not clear how they can avoid it.

[–] Krompus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

BlueSky is specifically designed as a drop-in Twitter replacement, it’s an easy transition, and tons of Twitter users have been advertising it for a long time. The Fediverse is comparatively obscure.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And it's ridiculous because the difference between Mastodon and Twitter is minuscule.

I remember following some popular Twitter Head. Someone made a fake account on Mastodon and started getting followers but only posted once. Since then, his followers have grown to around 11k without any content at all! Imagine if it had been a real account. But the Twitter Head would rather switch to Bluesky instead. Such bullshit.

[–] M137@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

It really isn't minuscule, it's still confusing enough for the vast majority of people. Just the fact that there are different servers and them having to learn about that is enough to put people off. Anything more complicated than basic sign-up/in weeds out 90% of people, every tiny little thing they need to learn makes it less likely they'll even think about using it.

This is obvious. The way you and many others here think about how knowledgeable, tech-literate and willing to lift just one extra finger the average person is isn't correct, people are dumb and lazy. And it hurts the fediverse as a whole and slows adoption.

Your opinion and my reply here have been said thousands of times, I don't understand how your kind of ignorance and misunderstanding is still so prevalent, I see it almost weekly.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like scientists should move towards open source solutions ... I feel like most scientists are smart enough to launch a mastodon server, but well.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Most people who work as "scientists" aren't actually scientists.

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 months ago

Define "Scientist".