Easier to let users play music for free when you don't pay the artists I guess
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Call me a hardcore Spotify fan boy: I paid for Spotify for 15 years, I loved it, I even applied to worked for them. The product was great and unmatched so as I didn't care about the problems, so many problems. things were getting progressively more problematic but in the end, King Gizzard convinced me to quit. I don't regret it a single minute. Fuck Spotify.
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wow the music app finally lets users select music! I'm sad that this is actually something to look forward to.
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I haven’t used Spotify, until recently, since it was first released. Its big value over Pandora was that it let you choose what to listen to…when did that change?
I’m using spotx on Linux so I don’t get ads, can search individual songs, etc. I thought the free tier was just ad supported, I didn’t realize that they didn’t let you pick what you wanted to listen to.
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I've not seen anyone recommend an alternative like Qobuz in these "fuck spotify" discussions - I think it's a good honest alternative?
I use Musify on Android. (From the F-Droid store) It pulls the music off of YouTube and works pretty well. Save playlists,download individual songs, it has recommendations but u didn't know how they work.
I was looking to try Qobuz, but they didn't like my email domain, so skipped it.
I have a custom domain and they accepted it a couple months ago - maybe give it another shot if it was a while back?
I switched to Qobuz, it's great!
Seen the recommendation plenty of times.
Is it better than TIDAL? I'm interested in switching to either of those, perhaps.
I only used Tidal a while back during a free trial, so can't comment too much. I think Tidal might have more wide spread functuonality adoption than Qoboz - but they do seem to be pushing out updates to meet feature parity.
Qoboz has been great to use though. I actually find I get a wider spectrum of recommendations than Spotify. Spotify seemed to type cast my current listening habits agressively, and it would take a while to break out of that loop each time.
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I recommend .
Jokes aside, the only reason I use Spotify is for discovery and the vast catalog (primarily the JP music market).
And I havent seen Qobuz be mentioned in any capacity by japanese artists.
Ah this is an interesting point. I think Qoboz are active in expanding their libraries and they do take requests on site. Do you have any JP recommendations - its not a region I've ever really listened to?
Japanese are difficult to deal with.
It sure was a process to get them to release on Spotify. Before that they tended to stay on Apple Music.
Examples of artists I liked:
Tokyo Health Club - J-Rap but a bit more lo-fi
-> One of my favs: https://youtu.be/GSRfeUHZZN8
-> Honorable mention: https://youtu.be/ErLSUsqERm8
- Crazy Beats (Touhou - Eurobeat Remixes)
-> Just open any of their songs and listen ;) - Akatsuki Records (Tohou Remix - All kinds of genre)
-> Same here - Hololive (A group of vTubers that also release music of all kinds of genre)
-> https://youtu.be/twUFbqyul_M
-> https://youtu.be/WGgEFoI9MhE - Ado (Also very diverse voice and genre selection. But usually more towards pop and pop-rock-like releases)
Thank you! I'm going to have a listen through these this week - you may have just broadened my horizons!
My pleasure :)
K. Still waiting on the lossless that supposedly dropped
Keep waiting then lol
Move to Qobuz which is more ethical
Qobuz vs TIDAL, go! (Curious to know more, if someone is willing to do a comparison that has experience with both, or either.)
I trialed Tidal and thought it was fine. Just Fine. I’m trying Qobuz right now. It seems like all the things I like from Bandcamp but there’s also a paid streaming service. The audio sounds great on Qobuz and I like the option of buying HiRes albums for my local media server. I’m an iOS loser, and they just updated Apple Music with finally some good crossfade. I’m a simpleton and that appeals a lot to me. I can’t find crossfade setting on Qobuz for iOS. I feel like I would pick Qobuz over Tidal just for the ease of downloading my music to my Zune/iPod/subsonic/jellyfin.
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Easy comparison. Tidal is not ethical. With investors like Black rocks ...they're devil financing wars and genocide.
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Or you've been using spotube and been doing this all along
Spotube doesn't actually use the Spotify API. They used to use the Spotify API for their music database, but they stopped when they received a cease and desist.
They've updated the app and you can again! You just need to select an external metadata provider. If you use Sonic Liberation, you can log into spotify again just like before. https://spotube.krtirtho.dev/downloads/
Oh my, things have changed fast. I wasn't aware there were other metadata providers. There I go spreading misinformation again.
I'm glad I avoided the spotify bug ever since I saw it.
When I was making money, I'd buy albums from bands I liked. Built up a nice library.
I'd love to buy the entire discographies of all the hundreds of artists I follow on Spotify. 💀 Simply not feasible.
Arrrr
Move to Qobuz which is more ethical