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[–] olorin99@kbin.earth 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes but I would be incompetent to the point where there's not much difference.

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Yes, hypocrisy is for neurotypicals. That's why those people will be tattooed with - ah, damn, you got me

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

The benevolent, uncorrupt, good thing for dictators to do is to abdicate.

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would establish a socialist polity, then abdicate.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Cool you forgot to establish power checked democracy, now you have the soviets. Congrats :)

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Yes, because my first act would be to replace the benevolent dictatorship with a representative democracy.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

No but I’d like to think I’d do better than most.

[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I don't trust myself that much.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure it's not possible to become a dictator without first being corrupt and evil.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

no but I could become a janitor that cleans up the workplace that nobody ever pays attention to

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[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago
[–] Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I know I can cause I'd really rather not be a dictator. I take responsibility for EVERYONE all the fuckong time trying to care for that many and feeling the pain and guilt if I fail even one will fuck me up and I'd rather just not do it. Only in extreme times like rn would I even consider it but I'll probably off my self when the reign ends cause I let some kid die because I didn't get healthcare to them fast enough. I'm a softie.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

"I think I am perhaps the only one honourable enough who can" thinks almost everyone.

[–] arararagi@ani.social 4 points 1 year ago

They often get killed faster than the evil ones.

[–] 001Guy001@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I'm less worried about getting corrupted and turning evil, and more about having the powerful people of the country/world go after me with all their might after I declare a transition into anarchism/socialism.

[–] 1141kizzie@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 year ago

If you are doing injustice in small acts then you will also do injustice in big acts too, Especially if you think you can get away with it. And person's view & promise about this does not matter, Because as Schopenhauer put it,

supposing that we wanted to know, for instance, how someone will act in a position in which we intend to place him, we must not rely on his promises and assurances. For, even assuming that he spoke honestly, he speaks of a matter that he does not know. Therefore, we have to calculate his actions solely on the basis of weighing the circumstances that he will have to face and their conflict with his character.

But I think person can achieve this kind of purity, by trying to be pure everyday. The reason i believe this is because i read a ancient Indian text called Mahabharata and it talked about a asceticism, Brahman, ashramas, double celibacy(doing sex only to beget children), mahaprasthana(means great journey, when person determine to departs from home and wanders around, awaiting death). It also had stories of benevolent kings, warriors & people showing uprightness. So, l believe, some people have attainted this kind of purity already in history & it's proof that man can control their desires and take right actions with impartiality by observing Brahmacharya

So your question, if I can be benevolent dictator without being corrupt or not?, yes, I can be but this job is not best suitable for me because of my personality And currently, my time tracking statistics & recent actions are not showing good results.

[–] roundup5381@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Only one way to find out

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

If society is at the point where we're making dictators then you likely have to be an immoral POS to stay in power. At every stage below you there are opportunistic people who want to take your spot.

What's the point of being a dictator if you can't be corrupt? The only difference is that you have to remember this simple fact:

No one gives a darn what the dictator's bank account looks like if they have full bellies, secure housing, and jobs that keep them just right balance of desperate and productive. Do those things, and they'll cheer when you build a statue of yourself. They'll be overjoyed when you get yourself a sex partner. And they'll fork over money willingly. Yes, it's easier to be feared than loved; but if you just do your job, nobody actually cares about the grift!

I'd be awful

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I would rock that shit, literally my dream job, practical problem solver with infinite power.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 4 points 1 year ago

What do they say about absolute power? It comes with great responsibility.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh goodness no. I pray I never come into any real political power.

For fun I've already run the numbers on how many adult humans will fit into the cargo holds of a decommissioned Panamax bulker.

[–] recursive_recursion@piefed.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes because I would be beholden to my customers via my AGPL-3.0 and CC-BY-SA-NC-4.0 licenses.

If I fuck around I imagine I'd quickly lose customers and go homeless.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know I can but none of you power-hungry would-be tyrants better try anything funny.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pineapple is mandatory on all pizzas 😈 (I actually like it no joke)

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[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

How would you hold power when the powers that be despise you? You think you can rule without military might, will of the people, and the approval of those who owm the resources of the land? The idea of benevolent dictator is broken because of the conditions that you would need to create to even get in power, and to stay in power, would not be benevolent.

[–] vin@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think most dictators think that they're evil. So even if I say I'm not or won't be, it's meaningless. History will be the judge.

Bigger question is how long would you last? If you're benevolent then the people closest to you won't like you as their dictator because presumably you treat everyone equitably and don't keep a bigger piece of the pie for yourself and your confidants.

[–] ChimpChamp22@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I think the problem for me would be less about corruption and more about me not being capable of taking that kind of responsibility.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I could absolutely be corrupt for the sake of everyone else's benefit. I don't need nor want wealth, I want enough to not worry about money, be able to take a sick day and not worry about it. I want people to be able to have kids and not have to worry about how they're going to support them. I want people to be able to get an education and not worry about how they're going to pay for it.

It's only a list of about 10 simple changes that could be implemented incredibly easy if leadership wasn't so worried about degrading one race or gender and lining their pockets.

[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I personally can, but that's because my empathetic response is unusually overblown.

My failure as a benevolent dictator would actually be becoming too detached from ordinary problems, so I'd need to have consistent town hall meetings where ordinary people could redress grievances, petition for aid and so on.

At that point it goes back to being a normal government, since the (un)elected official is trying their best to do the people's bidding while remaining accountable.

[–] Tracaine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nope. And I wouldn't even try. I'm going full evil tyrant, day one.

[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

if I were magically made dictator somehow, no I don't think so. but I'm not cutthroat enough to become a dictator in the first place.

[–] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago

I don't think I could cause I lack strategic thinking and would get easily outmaneuvered by some other faction

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

I doubt I would be a benevolent dictator. I am a good person mostly through sheer force of will, not by nature. I abhor cruelty — yet I'd gleefully inflict misery upon those who practice it.

I suspect over time that would erode the thin façade of beneficence within which my rage lies cocooned.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

One week after I take power the megaprojects start getting built. Benevolence will be factored into budgetary concerns.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, but I would try to avoid it as much as possible because that's what we call in Spain "un marrón que te cagas" that only demented people want for themselves.

Yes, vote for me.

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe if I had a few years to reorganise myself, and that's a big maybe. I've never much cared for money, power, and I'm empathetic to a fault, but being in different environments causes people to change.

The biggest challenge would be staying in touch with the population. You would need a good team of people that represent the interests of human existence and happiness. At that point it's sounding closer to a democracy anyway.

From there, there's obvious moves. Find the biggest sources of misery and damage, reform or just straight up tear it out and start again. You'd need to move moderately slow, moving quickly destabilizes people too much and that is often not worth the cost. Raise social safety nets, try to turn the system from working to survive into one where working to get nice shit.

I feel like I might bankrupt whichever system I'm put in charge of though. Economics was never my strong suit, and I probably would start ignoring economic realities in favour of human existence.

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