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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Better get rid of every chemistry textbook containing a Mendelyev table. Marie Curie had a hand in a few of those.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Somehow, I dont think that'll matter to much in a Taliban university. May as well just go back to "earth, water, air and fire".

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It will matter. Even if the leadership is backward as shit, those guys still need engineers, doctors and other skilled workers.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They need them, they just won't be getting them.

They are in for a shitty couple of decades.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In a lot of ways, I fear that won't be true and it'll be held up as a shitty example of why misogyny 'works'

Case in point, they can still sell their opium for a lot of money and use that money to bring in engineers from SEAsia that will risk it for the big money they're being promised.

They can bring in nurses, etc with the same money, it's a LOT of a money and unlike Oil, there isn't a 'opidollar' like the 'petrodollar'

It's despressing that the right might run and win this shit, I'm just so tired of it.

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I hope for all our sakes that you're wrong, but who knows. I personally dont think importing skilled slave labour is a winning strategy long term, disgruntled engineers aren't going to be doing their best work.

The other problem is that no matter how bad it goes, they can spend the next 15-20 years blaming their problems on the Americans, so itll be a while before any real introspection occurs.

Absolutely agree how depressing this all is. :(

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I hope for all our sakes that you're wrong

So do I.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Id argue it's gonna be much better than when america and NATO came to "civilize" them, or the russians came before that or the Brits came even before that. Afghanistan requires Change, but real change happens within, by the people, not fucking "white saviours"

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Absolutely, they have to fix their own problems. But we have seen how the change has gone since the US left, and so far its not been on positive path.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tourism is currently booming, people are coming back to Afghanistan and that alone is a massive change, it's restructuring what it is decades of drug trafficking for finance to tourism for finance. My friend no offense, but I don't think you know anything about Afghanistan bar what is said on some major corporate media conglomeration owned by Peter thiel or some shit

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Booming?

https://www.afghanembassy.au/art-and-culture/travel-and-tourism.html - This claims 20k per year, with the peak being in the 1970s at 90k.

Antarctica claims 80k in one year: https://iaato.org/news-room/data-statistics

If those sources are too biased, feel free to supply your own.

Either way, when the entire countries women and girls are unable to access education, a small bump to tourism doesnt quite add up to a net positive in my eyes.

[–] Shezzagrad@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

First of of all 1970s isn't when america, Britian or Russia were occupying Afghanistan, it was free and had a democratic leader. Todays Taliban while the new leaders aren't free from influence of america. The Taliban are the offshoots/successors of the mujahedeen a fundamentalist and extremist organization funded by America to fight against Russia who then afterwards were so funded in comparison to the rest of Afghanistan that they took power. But if you couldn't understand these basic facts how am I going to explain to you internal political pressure that comes with tourism, money flowing and educated people returning to a regime and their ideals. I don't support the Taliban but I support they are the current free leaders of Afghanistan and somehow they are leading better than "free world" that funded these extreme bigots stopping girls from going schools and the massive drug fields

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

By your powers combined I am Captain Backwards!

Captain Backwards

He's a Zero, gonna take the Women out of school now

He's the right wing, magnified and he fights against our equal rights

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

That doesn't matter, they just won't mention her.

[–] Phineaz@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago

It takes a very weak man to feel threatened by educated women.

[–] Grumpyleb@lemmus.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And now with this chatter coming from the US about retaking Baghram Airbase it's likely a deal will be made with them, you know, turn a blind eye...

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Feels like it's already both eyes squeezed firmly shut. Are there even more eyes to turn blind?

[–] Grumpyleb@lemmus.org 2 points 1 week ago

Who's to say Trump doesn't say we all have three eyes now and governments fall over themselves to convince us it's true.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

It's sad what has been happening in Afghanistan during and after the withdrawal of American troops. The world sighed once, then turned it's attention elsewhere. But it keeps happening.

One cannot deny that all countries who used Afghanistan as a geopolitical joker for decades, bear a lot of responsibility here.
Esp. during the last 3 this could have been handled much, much better. But US foreign policy was firmly in the grip of a simplified Good vs Bad ~~ethic~~ narrative by then. Which in turn has only been a veneer for its greed.

[–] Ladislawgrowlo@lemy.lol 2 points 1 week ago

That country has seen 40 years of war before, Soviet invasion, civil war and later anti terrorist operations. Lets hope there will be a revolution again, once the nation recognizes the need for reform from within. But I think foreign forces will intervene Saudi-Arabia would have a hand with funding the Taliban creating artificial stability. Pakistan and Iran would both interfere also with secret service operations.

[–] Flamekebab@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Nuggan is dead.