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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Why Hulk can defeat Wolverine in one comic but in the next one gets obliterated by someone weaker?

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I don't see how hulk can defeat wolverine.

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Old Testament -> young people behavior.
New Testament -> old people behaviour.
( yeah I know there are exceptions )
Read again keeping that in mind. Read news to look for allegory. People don't change at all.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Different guy

Oh wait so now jeebus wasnt "god"? Wow nice post hoc rationalization you got there, be a shame if anything happened to it

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

It's like that Shaggy song, "It Wasn't Me"

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 74 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Because it's all fake. Everyone who actually reads it finds way too many inconsistencies.

That's because it underwent some serious transformations across the millennia. Yahweh started as a storm god (basically Thor of Canaanite religion). Back then each nation in the religion had their own patron god and guess which god did the Israelites happen to have? Good old storm god Yahweh.

Over centuries the religion evolved and among Israelites Yahweh slowly took on attributes of other gods, mostly El (the all-father and creator of the universe) and Baal. First the other gods were degraded and monotheism was required, even though other gods were known to exist (you might remember the whole "jealous of other gods shtick" even though the rest of the Bible says there's only one god).

Then the other gods were slowly edited out of the Bible, though some remains persevere (the aforementioned jealousy of other gods, some gods are even mentioned by name). If the gods couldn't be removed because the story wouldn't make sense, they were mostly changed into angels or other mythical beings.

It's pretty funny rereading the Bible with this knowledge, you can clearly recognise which parts were the original Yahweh-the-storm-god and which used to be El-the-actual-creator by how he behaves in the story. When he's all jealous, rageful and angry, it's mostly based on the original Yahweh.

Anyway, that's basically what Old Testament is - a bunch of edits of much older religions. IIRC Yahweh precedes even the Canaanite religion, so it's a really old and grumpy storm god.

Now, New Testament is something else entirely, that was basically just slapped onto Judaism to have some legitimate and widely recognised vessel. Unlike the other edits, it didn't evolve naturally over time, it was just violently slapped onto the Old Testament.

Fun fact: try finding Satan anywhere in the old testament. You won't. Satan has been retrofit on multiple characters, but neither is mentioned directly as Satan, devil or really anything. The most famous one, the snake in the garden? Just a snake (which checks out with older religions where animals had a lot of influence). Then some morons come and say "actually, that snake was the grand adversary." The concept of a grand adversary wasn't really common in older religions, there usually wasn't a Satan-like figure. Compare for example with Greek, Roman or Norse gods.

So, in conclusion, the Bible is a horrible mess of edits that were made so the religion would serve the needs of the time they were introduced in. IIRC the Israelites were having some trouble with their neighbours back when Yahweh got the promotion, so having a strong sense of nationality would really help in keeping the nation together. New Testament is even more obvious because it didn't even really try to fit with the rest. They just tried to retrofit a few things and called it a day.

Well, this got longer than I planned, but I really like the topic and I don't think you can do it justice in two paragraphs. If anyone's interested, do some research, it's honestly fascinating! For example, what's the connection between Dionysus and Yahweh? That would be a homework for ya!

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

Fun fact: try finding Satan anywhere in the old testament. You won't.

What about the Book of Job? That was all about a bet between God and Satan to make Job suffer. Like, I'm sure he was still an edited deity from another religion. But he's straight up referred to as Satan, right there in the Old Testament, which seems to be the exact thing you're claiming can't be found.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I could be wrong but isn’t Ha-Satan just the title for “the accuser” and not the biblical satan who is the fallen angel

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[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

So... it's like the Jorge Joestar novel ?

https://jojowiki.com/JORGE_JOESTAR_(Novel)

[–] Cassanderer@thelemmy.club 4 points 22 hours ago

You just taught me as much bible as I have ever learned, last lesson being south park raining frogs.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

Me when I listen to tiktok instead of doing actual research

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 17 hours ago

The old testament was all about acting a certain way and laws, laws, laws. The new testament says just try your best to love and respect each other. In theory anyways. Humans be humaning though and human nature trumps religion every time.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 151 points 1 day ago (6 children)

its almost like the whole thing is an amalgam of thousands of texts edited and repurposed across thousands of years by human beings with various motivations.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (10 children)

The religion of the Israelites wasn't even monotheistic at first. Yahweh was one of many gods.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 12 hours ago (4 children)
[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh

You should have just looked this up yourself. It's going to be the first result in most search engines.

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[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

God became terrified of us after the tower of babel, so he told his minions to write the new testament in a more positive way, so we wouldn't seek to invade his realm and take control over creation in revenge for the atrocities he did to us.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 51 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (40 children)

I have studied this topic academically, a little bit. My answer:

  1. The people who wrote the old testament lived in a world that was almost unfathomably dangerous and difficult compared to today's first world. Death, disease, starvation, natural disasters, the collapse of whole towns and settlements, unexplained daily suffering for which there is not even an explanation let alone a cure, were constantly present. If you're in that place, and you believe there's a God who's in charge of it all, there is absolutely no conclusion to come to other than he's a real son of a bitch.
  2. I definitely believe that Jesus had some kind of genuine religious inspiration, that a lot of what he was teaching was for-real insight about life. The stuff about forgiving your enemies, living for good works through action and how it really doesn't matter what you say or what team you're on, trying to build a better life by caring about people around you, taking care of the sick and injured, even if they are beggars or prostitutes or foreigners or otherwise "bad" people in your mind simply because of their circumstances, seems pretty spot on to me. It was 100% at odds with the religion of the day, pretty much as much as it is with modern religion. What Jesus actually said does obviously have "spiritual" and supernatural elements also, but it is also focused to a huge extent on what you as an individual can do, and a sort of alignment towards the greater good and a calling for humanity, as opposed to this wild half-Pagan mythology about a capricious and bad-tempered God who might kill you at any instant.
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[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

It's all fiction. Different fiction from different people at different points in history. It was even re-written at certain points in history, to conform with (then current) ideas and morality.

Why doesn't it all make sense put together? It's fiction written by many, very different types of people with completely different ideas.

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