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Can't wait for Linux to support it and Tuxedo creating a laptop with it.
Snapdragon X2 Elite Extreme
That doesn't sound very high end, I think I'll wait for the Pro version, preferably Pro Plus.
It sounds like an advertisement for a condom or dildo
Don't you want to put on some of this thermal paste?
Where this is going, baby, you don't need no thermal paste!
faints on floor
BadDragon X2 Elite Extreme MAGNUM
Keep in mind the original X Elite benchmarks were never replicated in real world devices (not even close).
They used a desktop style device (with intense cooling that is not possible with laptops) and "developed solely for benchmarking" version of Linux (to this day X Elite runs like shit in Linux).
This is almost certainly a premeditated attempt at "legal false advertising".
Mark my words, you'll never see 4,000 points in GB6 ST on any real products.
I imagine things would be much closer if they put a giant heatsink that Ryzen 370 they're comparing and ran it at its 54W configurable TDP instead of the default 28W.
They also used the base M4, not M4 Pro or Max
Seems like they're also using two different Intel chips in their testing for some reason.
I'll take cherrypicking for $500, Alex
Ah. Thanks for the context.
Well, after they have product out, third parties will benchmark them, and we'll see how they actually stack up.
I saw someone liquid cool an Arduino to push it to the max, but you couldn't declare it to be a regular benchmark...
Let me know when these X elite chips have full Linux compatibility and then I’ll be interested. Until then, I’ll stick with Mac, it has the better hardware.
Friendly Question: has M4 full linux support?
I think I see what you’re saying. My gripe is that if I want a laptop/tablet with a great ARM chip, with long battery life, my options all force me to use one of two operating systems that I’d prefer not to use for ideological reasons. If I’m forced to use one, because I want an ARM device, I might as well use the one that has the best hardware. M5s are right around the corner and the MacBook Airs are really competitive.
If I misinterpreted your question, then no, as far as I’m aware, none of the M series has FULL support. The M1s and M2s are pretty close though.
No, neither does M3. You can read more about this project here: https://asahilinux.org/docs/platform/feature-support/m4/ Even M2 and M1 support is still being worked on.
Not who you asked, but at bare minimum macOS continues to be certified UNIX.
GNU is Not Unix.
Absolutely ture, your comment being? I think they were simply referencing the fact that there is a lot more software out there that can be made to semi easily run on linux/unix based systems.
Also while Linux is not the same as UNIX, interacting with them is much more similar than, say, interacting with Windows. They use a lot of the same conventions and managing macOS can be a lot like managing Linux if you want it to be.
As long as you don't try to use sed or grep. Literally the only reason I learned perl was because of the flag incompatibilities between macos Unix and Linux utils.
Yeah true, but if you use macOS expecting Linux that doesn’t make any sense. Then it’d just be Linux with a different DE lol. Hopefully doesn’t come across as snarky but pointing these differences out always seems rather pointless to me, they do exist but I mean yeah it’s not the same os.
Also while Linux is not the same as UNIX, interacting with them is much more similar than, say, interacting with Windows.
If you use only GUI, the underlying system philosophy is practically irrelevant.
If you use CLI, you can literally use the same distribution within WSL as you use on a Linux computer. I like using openSUSE's zypper in WSL more than I like brew on macOS.
Yeah brew sucks ass
Man… I knew this answer would come. 😀
Yeah I'll wait for independent benchmarks, thanks.
With actual devices
I'm going to call semi-bullshit here, or there is a major revisionist version or catch. If this were true, they'd be STUPID to not be working fast as hell to get full, unlocked Linux support upstreamed and start selling this as a datacenter competitor to what Amazon, Microsoft, and Amazon are offering, because it would be an entirely new class of performance. It could also dig into Nvidia and AMDs datacenter sales at scale if this efficient.
They put desktop cooling on the testbench apparently.
They’re also comparing to only the base M4 chip, not the Pro.
Also the M5 could still come out this year. But it also might not so it’s still a fair comparison till then.
Anyway if you’re looking for a Windows laptop specifically and don’t need anything that doesn’t run on ARM, it might be pretty damn good. I’d still wait for independent benchmarks.
Qualcomm is pretty dumb. Even if this were true, they’d still be leaving Linux support to the community.
This will be super cool when we actually have OSs that can run on them!
Windows 11 will turn this into a 486.
How's the GPU drivers though? Especially to me for Linux. These should be used in PC gaming handhelds but Qualcomm support is mediocre
linux on arm is not mature. on windows, typically emulation of x86 is used. They'll need to also support all of the gpu libraries for gaming.
If it's anything like their windows driver support then also awful. Maybe things have improved in the last year or so, but has Qualcomm ever put real effort into making ARM Windows laptops good?
I highly doubt this is accurate. Be nice, but doubt it.
Oh no, each new chip is going to be tree at something than another chip and vice versa. Anyways, what did people have for lunch?
