Memes

i always wonder why people act like socialism/ communism or however one calls it should not work or be worse, while capitalism should work.

While one is working together while the other is everybody on their own.

like as if there would be any scenario really where working together would not be the most efficiant

(my comment is not about china)

Socialism in action, which allows for long-term planning and acheiving societal goals.

but I also say that I still don't like the Chinese state because I don't consider that (and ML in general) a form of worker-owned means of production (whether or not you agree)

We've shown many times how the PRC is a worker-owned-and-controlled econoxy, and how the worker's congresses function in action.

If you don't consider any actually existing country that's trying to build socialism "up to your standard", then you should re-evaluate the basis of your opposition. If you kow-tow to every western-supremacist talking point about how Vietnam, the PRC, the DPRK, and Cuba "aren't doing socialism correctly because they aren't as smart as [insert western-supremacist marxist here], then yes, you are a liberal.

Kinda? What do you think socialism looks like, if not the PRC? What about the PRC makes it not "genuine worker control," or more broadly, Marxism-Leninism not "genuine worker control?"