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[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 5 points 36 minutes ago

What did you expect? Did you think we were living in a fairy tale and could build a better world?

[–] boogiebored@lemmy.world 22 points 3 hours ago
[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 40 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

So now 3rd party app stores need an ADB loopback to work around that.

Not hard to do, but uselessly annoying.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 minutes ago

I think you can already do that with shizuku and dome fdroid clients. It also makes using 3rd party appstores more convenient just in general.

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 3 points 51 minutes ago

That's only if the apps distributed are unverified. Mind, the EU already requires app stores to document the identities of devs, but there are loopholes for Small enterprises. In 2027, manufacturers need to document the identities of their suppliers. There are still exceptions for non-profit open source projects, but that's not what Google is. Surely, no one here wants Google to avoid regulations by investing in open source.

[–] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Installing the third party stores would be way harder than it is right now if they do that though. No way the devs of e.g. f-droid are getting a verification on an app that bypasses Google's new 'safety measures'

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I could imagine something like Sidequest happening on Android.

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 65 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We really need some money poured into the Linux mobile space because this is a terrible direction to go.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 23 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

dug my pinephone out of a drawer yesterday and gave it a whirl. still pretty rough unfortunately even after updating postmarket os.

Cool being able to SSH into my phone though

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 2 points 1 hour ago

Cool being able to SSH into my phone though

I thought you could do that on Android?

[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I'm still hoping they can get to a state for more general users. I really want one still. I need a Linux phone doing the old sidekick designs.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The main issue will be application support.

Linux running on the desktop in 2025 is helped immensely by everything being web based. So long as you have a browser you are fine for a lot of general computing.

The phone space is ruled by apps. The phone makers and the companies developing apps prefer it this way.

Getting a banking app, or Uber or Facebook Messenger to work on a Linux phone is going to be a massive pain in the ass (ignoring the rest of the OS which is definitely not even close to useable for the general public).

I would love a Linux phone but we are so far away.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 minutes ago

The phone space is ruled by apps. The phone makers and the companies developing apps prefer it this way.

That's true, but for everything non-free, they always end up having a perfectly working web app that will accept my money.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

tbh part of the rough experience for me may be down to the hardware. the ubports version of the pinephone i have is quite low power. 2GB memory and a little ARM Cortex-A53

tis sluggish

[–] VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 20 points 7 hours ago

We need better Mobile Linux / Android distros

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 31 points 7 hours ago

Free market and openness my ass.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 27 points 7 hours ago

ThIs ApPLicAtIoN iS DaNgErOuS

[–] excral@feddit.org 40 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (4 children)

Is this even legal in the EU? The majority of phones in the EU are Android phones so this effectively gives Google control over what apps can be installed to the majority of phones. I thought the Digital Markets Act was designed to prevent exactly this.

[–] lengau@midwest.social 2 points 3 hours ago

This is essentially Google moving to do what I always thought was Apple's malicious compliance on the DMA, but which European courts seem to have accepted as just fine. I'm pretty miffed at Google for sinking to Apple's level on this.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 30 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Google will become the exact same as apple, third party stores are technically "allowed", but requires Google's official stamp (digital signature), it's same with Apple. Its probably legal since Apple is already like this.

A corporation like Epic Games will be left alone since they can afford lawyers. An open source volunteer dev making a Youtube alternative client will get their certificates revoked under dubious "ToS Violation" claims and they won't have money to sue.

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