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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 129 points 19 hours ago (37 children)

The only advantage Android has over iOS is being able to install [any] software.

[–] BitingChaos@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I was able to set custom APN settings on my Pixel to bypass the tethering block that MetroPCS puts on their cheapest plan.

There is nothing in iOS that lets you do that.

I also can't run WiFi scanners on iOS.

And Android will still have ADB sideloading. On iOS I have to run shit like Sideloadly to re-sign applications every 7 days.

If you're a true Android fan, there is still a lot to keep you on the platform.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 12 hours ago (5 children)

Literally all of this is being able to run whatever software you want

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

So if Android loses that you go to the other place that also NOT lets you do that? That makes sense... Get a fairphone, install Ubuntu touch and stop rolling over like a good little dog.

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[–] BitingChaos@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Which part of having access to the built-in APN settings has to do with running whatever software I want?

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[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 47 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

That's one of the big ones. Also phones with SD card slots and headphone jacks.

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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 29 points 18 hours ago

*had Fuck google and every piece of shit implementing this for them.

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[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 49 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

i bailed on android to join my family on ios, and i hate it. now i cant even go back comfortably. so... linux phones?

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not sure why you did that. android still gives you more freedom and is still better

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 points 10 hours ago

For now, yes. But time is running out and of course Apple is no solution. Only fools would go to apple now.

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[–] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 286 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Google can go fuck itself.

Hopefully this will put some jet fuel into the Linux phone development.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 70 points 21 hours ago (22 children)

I'm checking out Graphene OS next week and pretty pumped about it. This Google ratfucking has been just the push I need to get off Android.

And obviously I haven't stopped telling people around me haha

[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 47 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Most F-Droid users are NOT custom ROMs.
This means that as long as F-Droid does not get their own developer key - it will become useless. F-Droid is privacy focused - both dev and user, and they oppose requiring devs to essentially give up their privacy and sign the APK with their own dev key.

Now, if F-Droid is dead, GrapheneOS becomes useless. Who would want to develop apps for the 0.0001% of the population (i.e custom ROM users)

[–] ChillPill@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

This.

I am the person you are talking about. I've looked into graphene before and I do host some of my own services at home. I also work full time and I don't want to spend all of my free time managing things. I use F-Droid, but I am on stock android on my pixel.

I appreciate the privacy and FOSS nature of F-Droid, but I use things like Android auto Google maps for work, I use banking apps on my phone as well. I know technically micro G and blah blah blah, but like I said: work full time.

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 15 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Google can go fuck itself.

Google would much rather go fuck you.

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[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 34 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

So I guess I'm going to have to learn to use ADB.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 15 hours ago

Easy but annoying.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago

I believe side loaders for the meta quest already use it under the hood. maybe there's potential to make a side loading app store

[–] goatinspace@feddit.org 21 points 17 hours ago
[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 82 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

Google hit by EU lawsuit in 3.. 2.. 1..

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 71 points 21 hours ago (7 children)

EU wants to read all your online communications so, no, they will not be saving you from this. This furthers that goal

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 58 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Luckily it's not the same body in the EU who's in charge of enforcing AND setting up proposals.

The EU is not a "one opinion" government body.

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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 33 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I normally use ADB anyway, but wouldn’t surprise me if that becomes more locked down as well. For example, I believe Meta Quest requires a developer account with a credit card attached to even put it in developer mode, and I worry that kind of bullshit will become the norm.

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 7 points 14 hours ago (8 children)

I was about to switch to android but ended up with another iPhone because of Google killing the only reasons to use android.

I like my air but I’m still waiting for what I really want. A viable Linux phone.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 8 hours ago

A viable Linux phone.

I am eyeing the Jolla C2. Gonna use GrapheneOS for as long as possible, but if all else fails I will use the shittiest Linux phone over this Google/Apple nightmare.

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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

And their flagship costs more than the iPhone 17 Pro but has performance closer to the iPhone 11 and they still sell your data off the back end.

Android was a fine alternative to iOS for a minute… like in 2012 with the Galaxy S3 and Jellybean. Now? I don’t get it. You pay more, you get less, all because — what? Gmail was once cool?

They took your headphone jack. They took your memory card slot. They took your back button. (Anyone remember the menu button?) Now they’re taking sideloading.

What is even the point of Android? It isn’t freedom. I see it as capitulation to Big Data.

[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 28 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

Imo, the Android experience is far better than iOS. I have no love for either Google or Apple, but I would rather use a slower older Android phone over any iPhone.

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[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 19 points 17 hours ago

And all those things were "taken" because they followed apple's lead who took all those things first. Losing sideload capability is yet another fallow the leader act they're doing to be like apple.

As for more expensive, disagree there. That's only the case if you go with high end sansung phones, but you can get android phones for much cheaper with still decent hardware, and it (currently) can do all the things apple does. You cant buy a cheaper apple 17 then the 2 models they give you. Also the hardware differences are so minor between Samsung and Apple, its laughable to call one "better" so your ppst really comes off like a fanboy talking about something you dont understand.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 4 points 12 hours ago

They took your headphone jack.

Are we talking the nebulous They, the royal They, or do you mean "Android took your headphone jack?" Because uhh,

https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/08/17/seven-years-later-apple-was-right-to-kill-off-the-35mm-headphone-jack

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