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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] kennedy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

can you all just fucking chill oh my god

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[–] rowdy@piefed.social 61 points 2 days ago (6 children)

That thread was a painful read. Framework laptop is off the wishlist.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't know who you're going to find that's better, all these big companies are inevitably supporting way more problematic individuals

[–] pika@lemmy.today 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Exactly. As bad as we might think Framework is because of all this, what's a more ethical company to buy a laptop from?

Regardless, it's still important to call out problematic behavior when we see it.

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[–] calliope@retrolemmy.com 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

As a former long-time Ruby developer who also used Rails (Ruby since 2006, Rails came along for me later), I’ve always known DHH was a total douchebag.

It’s nice to know he’s being super obvious about it now. He’s always been awful. He’s just been slightly quieter about it, other than buying million-dollar cars and pretending he’s still relevant.

Edit to add that here’s a presentation talking about “The DHH problem” in 2014. The updates are darkly humorous.

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[–] Hack3900@lemy.lol 34 points 2 days ago

I spent a lot of time recommending Framework, I got family to buy a laptop. Their hardware is fundamentally a political statement that I respuct. Seeing them use a "no politics" fallacy hurts

:/

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Hyperland sounds more like edgelords.

The DHH fellow is a full on Nazi-style racist.

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[–] disconsented@lemmy.nz -5 points 1 day ago
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[–] astro_ray@piefed.social 49 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What? I am relatively new to knowing and talking with DHH, but I have not seen anything he has said that would lend credence to what you are saying here. Furthermore these are heavy accusations. I see zero shred of evidence on the internet or revolving around Omarchy. I haven’t see a single negative thing coming out of my discourse around Omarchy. The focus is software excellence, and it is awesome.

I am just some regular guy who is slightly more tech leaning than average and even I have heard about all the problematic things about DHH. Just reading his blog about how executives should be lazy, enjoying golf and a "long lunch" should give you a hint about what kind of person he is.

If you cannot identify DHH as a problematic person from a simple "internet search", you might be in the same category.

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[–] Aetherion@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Holy shit, this thread makes me throw up.

Guess we will go back to classic used hardware?

And if someone here has a comprehensive guide at hand to completely decouple from big tech to sustainable human tech I would be very pleased (if not no problem I'm still planning to create a good working guide myself).

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Used thinkpads are cheaper and reuse is one of the best ways to reduce ewaste by using something that was headed to the landfill. I've been happy with my t480s.

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[–] Gino_Pilotino667@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

They should just support niri & cachy

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If DHH's wet dream comes true Nirav would be back in India no matter how much money he gives him.

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[–] warm@kbin.earth 24 points 2 days ago

Ugh I hate reading threads like that, the amount of delusion, stupidity and ignorance really gives me no hope for humanity.

Just vile people, fuck off fascists.

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