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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's because a third of Americans believe everything that happens is part of God's plan because he controls everything good and bad.

[–] mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Yeah, far be it from me to rush to the defense of religion, but this is not quite as scary as it sounds. You could very well have a religious person answering this survey who absolutely hates Trump and thinks he is a force for evil. Like you said, most Christians believe literally every event is part of God's plan (which is quite reasonable given their axioms tbh).

In fact the article clarifies this:

"That survey, of a nationally representative sample of 8,937 Americans from across the U.S., found that overall, 4 percent believed God chose Trump because He believes in his policies, while another 32 percent think Trump’s election is part of God’s plan, although God may not necessarily agree with his program. Nearly half, 49 percent, said God doesn’t get involved in elections, while 14 percent said they don’t believe in God.

When it comes to white evangelicals, those numbers are much higher, with 8 percent believing God ordained Trump because He agrees with his policies, and 63 percent thinking his election is part of God’s plan, whether the deity agrees with his policies or not. Their beliefs held firm with regards to Joe Biden’s election in 2020 with 67 percent of white evangelicals believing his victory was part of God’s plan – but with the stark difference that a negligible percentage believed that God agreed with his policies."

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is a good analysis of the article. The headline is rage bait.

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[–] chunes@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

21% of U.S. adults are fully illiterate. Another 33% can't read better than an elementary school student.

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 week ago (4 children)

TIL one in three Americans suffer severe mental health disorders.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Unfun fact! Carter tried to establish community mental health care centers across America, but Reagan immediately undid it.

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 34 points 1 week ago (6 children)
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[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Daily reminfer that 33% of the US is crazy, and the majority hate Trump.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Aparently they didnt hate him enough to vote against him.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The more I see shit like this, the more I ask myself, why are we trying to save this?

  • Our legal system has been broken since it's creation.
  • Our representation has never represented us.
  • Peace is an imaginary thing, at best.
  • Calling any country our allies, is a joke.

So what is the point of all this shit?

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The point is that America has managed to make a lot of guys richer than God by allowing them to exploit millions of people

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[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn’t everything that happens a part of God’s plan? I do not understand the thought process of most Christians.

[–] potoo22@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Everything they agree with is part of God's plan. Everything they don't is the work of the devil. When you can control what is "seen" as God's plan, you can control the population. And anyone who disagrees is under the influence of the devil and an enemy. Basic cult mentality.

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[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Imagine how stupid the average person is and now realize that half of them are dumber than that.

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[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (4 children)

A third of Americans are incredibly fucking dumb.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Religion should be added to the DSM as a dangerous disorder.

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[–] blave@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A third of Americans are delusional

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

well, duh?

if you believe in God and you believe God has a plan, then this is part of that plan

how many Christians don't believe God has a plan?

it was God's plan for Charlie Kirkkk to die publicly. it was God's plan for all those school children to die. it is God's plan to abuse and murder non-whites in the US. it is God's plan to have the wealthy and powerful abuse young women and for the masses to protect them

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[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Just more proof that everything going on right now is because of religion. They want to control everything and everyone, and punish everyone that doesn't fit their fictional god's plan. Project 2025 exactly.

If you're religious and reading this, fuck you. No really, even though you think you're one of the "good ones", FUCK YOU.

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

So, basically, they're saying God is a colossal asshole. Gotcha.

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[–] TheRealKuni@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago (9 children)

To play devil’s advocate (or perhaps God’s advocate?) if you leave behind the relatively recent “God is omniscient, omnipotent, and all-loving” thing, then bad things happening would be part of even a benevolent deity’s plan. That is to say, bad things are going to happen, working to find a balance that works out well in the long run would be the goal.

“God works all things together for the good of those who love and trust in Him” is a commonly misunderstood doctrine. It isn’t that nothing will ever be bad. It’s that even bad things are included in the plan.

(The Mistborn series, especially the third book in the first era and the books in the second era, does a good job with this concept. Also the final book in The Wheel of Time touches on it during the confrontation with the Dark One.)

So theoretically, even a Christian who despises Trump could say Trump’s presidency is “part of God’s plan.”

(But I’m guessing that’s not what most people mean when they say something like this.)

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, and for the benefit of the many people who didn't read the article, it says this further down:

overall, 4 percent believed God chose Trump because He believes in his policies, while another 32 percent think Trump’s election is part of God’s plan, although God may not necessarily agree with his program.

To put it into perspective, anything less than 5% on the extreme end of a survey is generally treated as the "nonsense response" or "straight-line response" effect, i.e. you can put the most ridiculous thing imaginable on a survey and reliably get 5% positive responses on it. 4% means that the notion was too spicy even for a lot of the usual loonies.

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So is cancer, pedophilia, child starvation and the actual literal devil. What's their point?

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago

Well I mean the similarities to the antichrist are uncanny. I can understand the feeling.

This is why we are completely and totally fucked.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I want out of here. Trump has never been to church, and when asked, couldn't name his favorite Bible verse. He is and has always been a narcissistic fraud. I wish I could leave this country.

See everyone one at the protest on the 18th.

[–] BotsRuinedEverything@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As an atheist, I'm starting to believe this is the work of God too. A deeply vengeful God.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure what's worse. The article or the AI generated nightmare fuel picture.

[–] Localhorst86@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago

I believe this actually happened...

Supporters lay their hands on President Donald Trump as they pray for him at the conclusion of a news conference in February 2020 (Getty Images)

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