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I know France popularized the Guillotine, but what was the highest profile case of an American fucking around and finding out?

Elizabeth Holmes, Sam Bankman-Freid, and Martin Shkreli come to the top of mind. Maybe Bernie Maddoff?

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[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Brian Thompson, UnitedHealthcare CEO? The one that Luigi allegedly took out.

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Whomever murdered this Brian gentleman wasn’t the State but I appreciate the sentiment.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

The people doing the guillotining weren't the state (at first anyway)

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

Murder? Self defense

[–] rothaine@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

Wasn't a billionaire

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

How about the owner of Trump Burger getting deported?

Oh. I guess he's nowhere near the richest, I gave him extra credit for irony.

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago

The irony on this one was chefs kiss

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Brian Thompson and Alex Jones are the only example of rich people falling from grace because of people in a different class that I can think of. Most examples like Elizabeth got clapped because they played class warfare tactics against their own team. Grifting is only allowed against the poor, otherwise it's called securities fraud.

[–] Coopr8@kbin.earth 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bernie Madoff had the largest fall from $65 billion estimated at peak to $17 billion at time of arrest then dying in prison.

Changpeng Zhao of Binance will be the richest person in the US, and probably ever, to do time in prison after conviction, but his wealth won't be impacted and it is only a few months, so hardly much Finding Out involved.

Sam Bankman-Fried is potentially an even bigger Find Out than Madoff, because unlike Madoff who maintained a large estate even after going to jail, SBF has gone from around $24 billion to $15.5 Billion at time of arrest, to now close to zero on paper as almost all his wealth was tied up in FTX and crypto and it was "all" siezed as part of his conviction and the FTX winddown. Now that said, he probably has a lot of crypto stashed in cold wallets somewhere that have appreciated substantially since his arrest, so it is hard to know how much he would be worth if he ever got access to them, but as I understand it he is basically banned from using computers and facing over 100 years on his sentence, so he better be putting in a lot of good behavior of he ever hopes to see any of that secret stash again.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago

Idk, SBF is kind of a moron, I could see him not having a lot of cold wallets out there. Hardly anyone is really as paranoid as they pretend to be.

[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Founding Father, Alexander Hamilton was shot and killed in a duel for insulting Vice President at the time, Aaron Burr.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 2 months ago

I don't think he was that rich... surely there's richer Americans who opposed even richer Americans and got knocked down, like at least Aaron Swartz. Not that I disagree with them on what led to their deaths. (Also, insult? More like going to great yet civil and pleasantrishly-polite lengths to oppose his campaigns.)

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Can we add Kennedy (Vietnam) and Lincoln (Slavery) too? Or were their FO not related to their FA?

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 months ago

We don't fully understand JFK's assassin, but it is likely not due to Vietnam as Vietnam wasn't a major issue at the time of Kennedy's death.

Lincoln's assassination could be seen as a defense of slavery and other Southern "rights".

[–] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the highest profile cases have yet to occur. Here’s hoping.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago

And on that note I can think of several. I mean not just those I wish consequences on, but those where this is also likely to occur.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Brian Thompson

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Taking this opportunity to inform anyone that didn't hear the suppressed news about the CEO of the real estate investment company Blackstone was killed this year.

https://fortune.com/2025/07/29/wesley-lepatner-blackstone-breit-real-estate-investment-fund-killed-mass-shooting/

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The CEO of a specific fund that Blackstone operates, yes. And she was killed by someone targeting the NFL headquarters, who blamed football and CTE for some of his issues.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He clearly wasn't targeting the NFL

[–] exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He suffered from mental health and physical issues, blamed it on CTE, left a note requesting that his brain be examined for CTE, and was diagnosed with CTE after his death. All that is consistent with targeting the NFL headquarters in that building.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Someone who plans out this kind of shooting doesn't go to the wrong floor, I'm sorry you have such a hard time understanding you are being lied to.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I'd say Elon Musk. He threw how many millions at Trump's presidential run thinking Don would return the favor once he was president..

So how'd that work out for you, Elon?

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Still worth $500 billion usd. Waiting for the FO.

[–] JakJak98@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Less about monetary FO and more the pride and self righteous FO

[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago
[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I wish I could say Trump but the man evidently has an unlimited lifetime pass to fuck around without finding out.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He certainly FA plenty. I think he also FO plenty (more than just your example) but either he's very clever about covering up his looming bankruptcy or he really is too big to fail.

[–] Lasherz12@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Third option, he manipulates the stock and crypto markets and nobody bats an eye, netting huge sums of wealth.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

I see him more as a south african with pretensions of ideologically becoming an american, regardless of his papers.

[–] Perspectivist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 months ago

That's money he found between his couch cushions. It's a rounding error on his balance sheet.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah but after that Musk used DOGE to shut down every regulatory commission investigating him, then he bailed.

Seems he got what he wanted