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[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

For the liberals, a metaphor:

It's the end of the American Civil War. The Southern lines have collapsed, the Union is surging. Robert E Lee and the remaining confederates, rather than surrender, decide to retreat to the island of Puerto Rico. The US Army moves to pursue them, but Spain sends an armada to point it's guns at Florida.

Once ensconced on Puerto Rico, the slavers initiate a brutal anti-abolitionist crackdown that sees them murder tens of thousands of people. Then they proceed to implement four decades of martial law and throw at least 140,000 people into concentration camps on suspicion of being "yankee sympathizers". Thousands more are disappeared into the jungle by the Dixie death squads.

Meanwhile, Spain floods Europe with propaganda about the noble freedom fighters of Puerto Rico and their valiant struggle against Northern Aggression. To this day, the face of Robert E "Memphis Massacre" Lee is stamped on the money.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

The Confederates continue to claim sole ownership over all the territory of America, plus some of Canada for good measure. In taverns and coffee shops from Barcelona to Berlin, any mention of the USA is likely to be met with a self-satisfied "You mean West Puerto Rico?😏"

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

Saved! I'll show this to people, if it ever comes up.

[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 2 months ago

Fuck the 'Democratic Socialists' or whatever the succdems call themselves now.

[–] ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com 13 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I believe in the right of self-determination for all peoples. The populace of Taiwan need to consent to being governed by the PRC, and currently support for one China in Taiwan is very low, based on what I've read. That might change in the future.

There should be no outside interference or anyone trying to pull the strings, and the issue should be solved peacefully.

[–] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The populace of Taiwan need to consent to being governed by the PRC, and currently support for one China in Taiwan is very low, based on what I've read.

The state that currently rules Taiwan engaged in white terror and killed dissidents. The population of Taiwan obviously did not consent to that, but you accept their rule just fine. So, you are inconsistent.

Furthermore, that state is a collaborator for the most evil polity in the world - NATO. That means that the considerations of their population's wants are secondary to stopping the horrors that NATO has been inflicting upon the world.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

This point of view makes sense. Perhaps the best possible way to resolve the issue peacefully.

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 3 points 2 months ago

I have no idea what my political leaning may be labelled as, but that sums up nicely how I feel on this subject and many others. Thanks.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago

How convenient to fall back on arguments about self-determination only after the island spent decades under a repressive military dictatorship, and then decades under a US controlled "liberal democracy" with US controlled media and an education system that brainwashed and indoctrinated entire generations of people to see themselves as different from the mainland. Why was the issue never put to a referendum? Why are sympathies with the mainland still harshly repressed and any talk of reunification suppressed?

[–] PanArab@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I keep wondering where they all come from? Is the CIA running a bot farm to downvote any post that calls them out?

[–] bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

yeah, its a farm called lemmy.world 🤣

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't Taiwan call itself RoC, while China call itself PRoC?
So they both are having claims, right?
The communists won in the civil war with wider support and the KMT escaped to Taiwan.

And atleast some people on both sides seem to be thinking about reunification. I think the communists are more correct, but ultimately let the people there decide on how they reunify.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right now, in Taiwan, most people just want the status quo. China is confident Taiwan will eventually choose full integration eventually, and the biggest obstacle is US presense.

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The only reason they want the status quo is because if they would want to separate taiwan would be hell on earth lol

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Also because they depend economically on trade with and work on the mainland.

[–] cybrefool@lemmy.wtf -5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Any chance you guys can get hobbies other than shitposts?

[–] some_random_nick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Wdym another hobby???

[–] Rumo161@feddit.org -5 points 2 months ago

I sometimes wonder if the partly deranged flare of those propaganda memes is due to translation issuses. Why do opressor stans always belive just because you are against their opression you must be for the opression of their enemies.