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[–] ignirtoq@fedia.io 40 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm American, not British, but every single item mentioned that public perception is wrong about sounds like it skews toward what would be rightwing propaganda here. If the British right is anything like the American right, then appealing to the politicians misrepresenting the numbers to do a better job stating the facts is a fool's errand. The misinformation is on purpose.

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

British here. You're right. It's the culmination of decades of intentional misinformation and stoking the fears of the racist and stupid. Appealing to the politicians spreading this (e.g. Farage) is useless. Appealing to the public is useless.

I heard a story about a friend of a friend who thought that one million immigrants entered Britain every day. As in, the population would literally double in two months if this was true. But not only did he not realise that, he repeated the "fact" to other people.

Obviously a lot of us are fine. But Reform is leading in the polls and people believe shit like that so the reality is most of us are not.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 months ago

Yank here as well, it's just propaganda period. Misinformation raigebait keeps people glued to their screens, keeps people arguing, and keeps them scrolling past tue advertising. I saw some survey not long ago that said a non insignificant number of people were reporting that their primary source of news was Facebook, and yeah that tracks with this.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 7 points 2 months ago

At which point disinformation might be a better word for it.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago

Which country are you from?

[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is incorrect. I'm British and us Brits have been wrong about everything for decades now. It started around the time that Murdoch bought his way into the British press and maggie thatcher thatcher (fucking milk snatcher) took control of the government.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago

No, I'm...no, wait. Yes, I a...no. oh, oh no!!

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 33 points 2 months ago

Note that this survey was pre-COVID and pre-Trump. The public are now probably wrong about absolutely everything.

[–] papafoxtrot@piefed.social 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This was published in 2013. It'd be interesting if they'd redo the the survey and compare current perceptions against current stats.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

UK voted for Brexit in 2016.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Not just the British. Many Americans have no idea what percent of the budget is for forgien aid, wjat the crime rate is doing, etc etc

[–] blimthepixie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Imagine how insufferable we'd be if we were right about nearly everything

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Official estimates are that just 70 pence in every £100 is fraudulent

Can someone explain this in International English, please?

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Official estimates are that just ~~70 pence~~ £0.70 in every £100 is fraudulent.

The British government estimates that Less than 1% of every 100 British pounds is fraudulent.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Fraudulently claimed, as in "people who aren't supposed to get it".

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago

Counterfeit?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

over 5% in USA.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

it's 16 and 21/724th thruppence, Sterling. On Wednesday, of course. It's an easy system once you get used to it, drinking helps.

[–] gabereal@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

This is from the newspaper owned by a Russian oligarch, right? Or am I thinking of a different 'Independent'?

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

OK, they did a brilliant own-goal with Brexit, but to be fair, most of the country is drunk at any given time.

[–] Mellow12@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Wrong or right the government should work for the people, so the government should do their job which is the will of the people. If the people are truly wrong maybe the media or something is misinforming them and the authorities should prove the culprit is lying to them. But gaslighting seems like mission of the day.

[–] TheGingerNut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 months ago

I wasn't old enough to drink when this survey was conducted