even the websites for local health systems have been going down. At this point if we have an event like Y2K was supposed to be, we are so fucked lol
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Hey! Great idea! Let's make all of the internet rely on one service from one evil company! What could go wrong?
Typical Amazon undersells everyone else to remove competition. Then after everyone has gone under reminds you it is a terrible idea. Hopefully we see businesses get burnt more and determine it is better to self host, or even better yet not need half their services on "the cloud" anyways.
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Amazon sneezes, the whole internet catches a cold.
Im still seeing services up/down the entire day at work. Services that are not even AWS like Azure are slow for some reason (probably businesses failing over to other infa). Its crazy.
None of our in office infa is having issues. Managers are talking about fail-overs all day lol.
When a handful of people own all the companies in the world, the whole world becomes a single point of failure.
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There are some downstream / knock on effects going on which can be explained...but I can't help but wonder if today's story is bigger than just AWS. AWS saying it was an outage of a "few hours" for DynamoDB and DNS...and that doesn't line up all that great with what people are reporting in the wild . I'm not trying to start a conspiracy theory, just wondering what the post mortems will tell us, if anything. Obviously the suits want to keep embarrassing fuckups downplayed as much as possible.
As someone with a little insider baseball knowledge, it was just a few hours down of DynamoDB and DNS. However, that caused EC2 to go down for ~1 day, which causes pretty much 1/3 of the internet to go down. Once EC2 sorts themselves out, then teams/companies (almost all amazon services use EC2 in the back end) that use EC2 have to get their ducks back in a row, and that can take any span of time, depending on how well their code was written to handle failures + how many people they are willing to pay oncall/overtime.
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It's almost as if centralizing everything is fucking stupid.
At my work there was a big push to get things out of our own isolated data centers and into AWS because we had some services that were really very vulnerable and not equipped to serve a global distributed audience well. AWS solved that problem for us and our devs liked working with it. However now our AWS bill is so high that we’re pushing everyone to reduce it. I guess that makes sense. We’re not going back to self-hosting, just optimizing and reducing. But it sure feels like whiplash from “get everything into AWS” to “we have too much in AWS.”
So it sounds like rather than investing in your own systems you outsourced and now it costs far more.
Shit son that's the same as almost every industry.
I don’t know if it costs far more but AWS is one big bill whereas running your own systems is a bunch of smaller expenses including real estate and employees in addition to hardware and utilities costs, insurance, etc which are harder to count. We see AWS on one big bill so the sticker shock is more palpable.
Moving to AWS didn’t just replace our services, it gave us a higher level of service reliability and availability. We would have had to double our spend to serve the globe as we really need to. AWS was the better option.
I think it costs a ridiculous amount because we moved over services that were built on self-run data centers where chron jobs were not billed on CPU cycles in a transparent way. Now they are. We can probably cut the AWS bill by as much as half through intelligent refactoring and optimization. Smarter data retention periods, killing off shit that isn’t worth it etc.
But the bean counters said it was the best idea!
Accountants shouldn’t be allowed to make decisions beyond their personal lives. MBAs even more so
What are these random fucking websites though
I mean those are giant websites and organizations that exist in the mainstream, instructure is used by most schools nowadays
Which is random? I’ve only not heard of three: Instructure, fanduel, and chime.
All the ones I’ve heard of are quite massive companies and I would assume the others are too.
FanDuel is sports betting
Well I can’t be sad that that predatory industry took a hit. Thanks for letting me know who they were. Seems betting has gotten crazy in America when I thought it wasn’t a thing outside of certain places like Atlantic city or Vegas.
Yeah, sports betting is getting legalized in more and more US states. It's pretty crazy. During most live sports broadcasts there are tons of commercials for it and even on the stadiums there are ads on the walls.
Maybe it was a bad idea for society to put 90% of the internet on one company's infrastructure.
I am grateful that my past me (from few months ago) decided to study Slavic philology, instead of getting stupid tech job. I hate modern tech, including anything from big corporations.
I am also glad that I've switched to Linux (Debian ftw) to escape software enshittification.
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Let's take a decentralized network and centalize it! Nothing will surely go wrong.
So Roblox is the only of those companies that can handle proper region failover if us-east-1 shits the bed? You young ops have gotten soft! Learn to live by ChaosMonkey or die by the Gorilla.
Yeah, but proper failover and recovery requires additional infrastructure, and that costs money.
Hopefully a bunch of risk management people are writing I-told-you-so emails to C-suites right now.
Yeah but not to worry, C-suites have pretty good filtering rules in place to never read them. Saves time, really.
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Jesus Amazon is a big enough company they should be doing their own hosting not using AWS.
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Are any lemmy instances run on aws? Been getting a lot less articles last couple days
Maybe the bots are run by AWS
I'd be surprised if none are run in AWS.
It's kind of telling when Amazon services like Ring, Prime Video, and Alexa failed over pretty quickly, but everything else just didnt.
There's no conspiracy here. It's just highlighting that Amazon could prepare for AWS outages in a region, but since everything auth related was on us-east-1, everything else went down.
Shortcuts are costly.
…and I did not even notice it, aside from the news here.
It really shows what a great life that we on the Fediverse are living, by making our tech independent to a degree from the largest tech providers.
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