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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Realistically it was similar in the BLM protests of 2020.

While Trump & Fox were telling demented grandmas that black people were burning entire cities to the ground, the reality was very tame.

Only real disruptions came from police provoking and illegally attacking protestors.

[–] devedeset@lemmy.zip 2 points 30 minutes ago

I literally watched a cop throw a blast ball in 2020 and then subsequently use their own actions to declare a riot

[–] SupahRevs@lemmy.world 21 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

They think they are better than other people. They don't see others as worthy of their consideration. “Am I the only one who is sick and tired of being told to pick up my trash, when we have plenty of janitors who are paid to do it for us?” - advisor to the President Stephen Miller

"Can't someone else do it?" - Homer Simpson

[–] vogo13@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago

"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes I fire up the ole' Charlie Kirk assassination video just to see it happen again.

[–] florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 hours ago

That's probably not mentally healthy buddy. How about we shift over to destroying all his life's work instead.

[–] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

"Maybe liberals care more about their community"

Im sorry, im so fuvking confused.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

It's just meme tier bullshit. Conservatives played this game for decades with every liberal protest imaginable.

Random out of context imagines with captions about the identity group being insincere because trash

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 hours ago

I dont agree with leaving the trash there, but I understand it. It would have been confusing with all the trash already gathering there.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

How do you know that all on no kings protestors are liberals?

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I would like to think it was only ~50%

[–] lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 28 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

I believe Hillary said it best. Deplorables.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 28 points 16 hours ago

You can tell who lives there.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 163 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe? Absolutely liberals care more about their communities. Part of conservatism is that you don’t give a single shit about anyone but yourself. Maybe your kids. But that’s only if they’re straight and cis.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

The right-wingers also aren't from the place they have these rallies at usually. They drive all over the country and get bussed around for these events to make the movement seem more popular. But when there are large progressive/left protests or events, they are mostly actually from that area so they care more about not making a mess.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Both things make sense together - people care more about not making a mess were they live than were they don't and left-wingers also think about others rather than just themselves - "do to others what you would like them to do to you" - which in this case means don't leave your trash behind to dirty up the place were others live, whilst rightwingers are all about what's best for themselves and in a place were they don't live simply dropping their trash on the ground and leaving it to dirty up somebody else's streets is less hassle for them personally than carrying their trash to the nearest trash bin.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

country folk vs city folk too

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

MAGA is white trash. …And pick me trash. To be fair. I wish we could just split the country at this point. Irreconcilable differences.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 28 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I wish we could just split the country at this point.

Literally what the controlling donor-class want more than anything.

The more we're divided, the less chance we have of making unified actions against corporate power and capital.

Do you think they will stop at left-versus-right? Why do you think there's so much infighting within left and right groups? Agitators are already in our midst driving up contention with rage-bait politics and they amplify the worst positions on both sides of every issue. They want every single American to be alone, inside their home, browsing a shopping feed.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 16 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Well most of project 2025 has been implemented so unless we do something soon we are trapped in a christofacist oligarchy for the foreseeable future. The cage is closing

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Most conservatives don't actually want the outcomes from Project 2025 either, they're just WWE fans cheering for their side, they would switch in a heartbeat if the narrative changed, or if they started getting hurt by the policies that will strip them of healthcare, benefits and wages, and most importantly, vices.

They are not capable of looking down the road at what their choices will lead to, their minds don't even work that way and we can't make them work that way no matter how bad we wish they would get smarter or listen to reason and logic.

We have to understand that conservatives broadly are not some overpowered force trying to crush us all, they're just our population's segment of armed toddlers. They think 2-dimensionally, they don't reason or use logic, they react to feelings and stories. We could absolutely take advantage of this and take them back, we could run this whole show if we understood that preaching to them about moral inconsistency or empathy or ideology is never going to work, that they only respond to what they immediately see and feel. The right has been very good about supplying them with these WWE stories with heroes and villains, meanwhile the left is STILL using the same rhetoric and lecturing thinking it will make a dent.

We could change the course of this country if we all got a lot more social, a lot more emotionally intelligent, and a lot less afraid of engaging with people we've been taught to fear and hate.

I know because I was raised conservative, I know how they think and feel and I have changed a good number of people with patience and emotional engagement.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I agree. And it goes the other way too. All the posturing by ICE and the AI-generated ragebait from the whitehouse, all just screams "what would I hate." They're making really bad moves, unable to understand how others think, feel, or make decisions. We could double-reverse-uno this situation and ask ourselves "what would they think we think?" It could change everything.

and a lot less afraid of engaging with people we’ve been taught to fear and hate.

I think we're all in more trouble with that than we may realize.

I encountered an instigator on Saturday. I found myself catapulted into a cyclone of rage all because of what he chose to wear: all pro-trump gear. Not because of what he was doing, which was next to nothing, nor what he was saying which was honestly not all that rage-inducing. I couldn't think, I couldn't engage creatively, I couldn't demonstrate effectively, my empathy went right out the window. I just stood there, fuming and stun-locked. And that was one guy. It's not like me, and I didn't used to be like this.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

I couldn’t think, I couldn’t engage creatively, I couldn’t demonstrate effectively, my empathy went right out the window. I just stood there, fuming and stun-locked. And that was one guy. It’s not like me, and I didn’t used to be like this.

You are beautiful and smarter than you probably even think for recognizing and understanding this. We are ALL vulnerable to the conditions they created.

We are being poisoned, and yeah it's pretty well set-in at this point because it's been ramping up for decades, but it's not natural. It's not just some consequence of division and politics, this cloud over our ability to engage is manufactured by very powerful systems and groups. They are all around us online, they are pushing our emotional buttons, they are stripping away our attention spans, they are feeding our brains narratives against our will and better reasoning. They do it on the left and right, they take the worst sides of every issue and make us unable to think clearly. It's strategic exploitation of our human vulnerabilities and tools like AI are going to make it vastly more efficient.

We can't get the right to understand this is happening, they don't have minds that work with abstractions and larger issues than what's in front of them, but we CAN learn to recognize our own feelings and reinforce our sovereignty and use our better minds to change their feelings.

As tired as the analogy is, there is a very real "waking up from the matrix" feeling to realizing how our own brains and feelings have been altered by forces outside of ourselves.

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[–] MyNameIsIgglePiggle@sh.itjust.works -2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I'm sorry but that is objectively untrue.

https://www.project2025.observer/en

48% of project 2025 has been done, which hardly qualifies as "most"

Speak to me at 51%

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago

48% since the end of January and you’re not concerned? It’s moving at lightning speed

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

There are still more than 3 years left. Don't let your guard down until tyranny falls.

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[–] thegr8goldfish@startrek.website 136 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Conservatives think destroying the community is a flex.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

you mean destroying "tHe deEp StAtE" or "THe EsTabLishMenT"

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

conservatives think anything is a flex as long as they can CO-OPT it into thier realm, they dont have a single belief they hold on to, and quite fickle, today its bad bunny, tommorow, its something else.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

They are just reactionary and don't have solid, thinking principles to guide them.

This could be a massive advantage, we could literally own them and push them into every good position we want if we all unified and understood that they have the minds of toddlers and just need good narratives and emotional engagement.

Instead, what most on the left do over and over is clash with ideology, philosophy and trying to argue about their "inconsistency." This has never worked except with people already on the fence, which is a shame that we have essentially given up on a 3rd of our population because the required level emotional intelligence is something you get from socializing and being social.

And like, half the people on the left are more vindictive than want better outcomes and want to see the right "pay" more than they want to see them change.

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[–] Hellotypewriter@retrolemmy.com 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In my town you couldn’t even tell there had been a protest there minutes after.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

My major city is still at its typical levels of squalor.

[–] pticrix@lemmy.ca 21 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
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