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[–] aarch0x40@lemmy.world 172 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Google, protecting you from privacy

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

Google protecting Google from FOSS.

They're right too, after using Immich I don't want to go back.

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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 75 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Google

I have identified the problem.

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[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

I knew it was too good to be true when they give away free pic storage for their pixel phones. I just didn't listen to my gut.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 55 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The URLs mentioned in their blog article all have a wrong certificate (different host name).

I am sure if they fix it Google’s system would reclassify the sites as safe.

[–] porcoesphino@mander.xyz 12 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I think that marking things as "safe" could have more complications than this depending on their definition but I think you're right that's probably all this issue is. This is almost the only sane comment here. Everyone else seems to be frothing at the mouth and I'm guessing its a decent mix of not understanding much of how these systems work (and blindly running tutorials for those that do self host) and blind ideology (big companies are bad / any practice that restricts my personal freedom in any way is bad)

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[–] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, sure, 5 years after google flagged one of the sites i hosted, some firewalls (including isp-level blocks) mark the domain as unsafe. Google removed the block after more than a week but the stink continues until today.

It was also a development domain and we were forced to change it.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 35 points 11 months ago

Immich users flag Google sites as dangerous

[–] Darkcoffee@sh.itjust.works 35 points 11 months ago

They've also started warning against android apps from outside repos. Basically they want to force people to use their ai-filled bullshit apps.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 23 points 11 months ago

Google marks half the apps on my phone as dangerous. Google are evil xxxxxx's

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Stop using google. Don't you know their motto? "Be evil"

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Easier said than done, if your end users run Chrome. Because Chrome will automatically block your site if you’re on double secret probation.

The phishing flag usually happens because you have the Username, Password, Log In, and SSO button all on the same screen. Google wants you to have the Username field, the Log In button, and any SSO stuff on one page. Then if you input a username and go to start a password login, Google expects the SSO to disappear and be replaced by the vanilla Log In button. If you simply have all of the fields and buttons on one page, Google flags it as a phishing attempt. Like I guess they expect you to try and steal users’ Google passwords if you have a password field on the same page as a “Sign in with Google” button.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

Firefox ingests Google SafeBrowsing lists.
If you are falsely flagged as phishing (like I was), then you are fucked regardless of what you use (except you use curl).

I couldnt even bypass the safebrowse warning on my Android phone in Firefox.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

OP is impacted by Google SafeBrowsing which various websites use.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Same when you try to deviate from the approved path of email providers or, dog forbid, even self-host email.

This is why I always switch off that "block potentially dangerous sites" setting in my browser - it means Google's blacklists. This is how Google influences the web beyond its own products.

edit: it's much more complex than simple blocklists with email

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I wouldn't recommend turning off safe browsing

If a page is blocked it is very easy to bypass. However, the warning page will make you take a step back.

For instance, someone could create a fake Lemmy instance at fedit.org to harvest credentials.

[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 11 months ago

just use ublock origin and a proper password manager. google safe browsing means google sees what sites you browse.

[–] Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

@possiblylinux127 @A_norny_mousse ungoogled-chromium disables safe browsing, and for Debian's chromium package I keep going back and forth about whether to pull that patch in or not.

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

This is why I always don't use Chrome or Google Search

[–] FreedomAdvocate 15 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Why are the immich teams internal deployments available to anyone on the open web? If you go to one of their links, like they provide in the article, they have an invalid SSL certificate, which google rightly flags as being a security risk, warns you about it, and stops you from going there without manual intervention. This is standard behaviour and no-one should want google to stop doing this.

I was going to install linux on an old NUC to run immich some time soon, but think I might have to have a look to see if it has been audited by some legit security companies first. How do they not see this issue of their own doing?

[–] chaospatterns@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

It is for pull requests. A user makes a change to the documentation, they want to be able to see the changes on a web page.

If you don't have them on the open web, developers and pull request authors can't see the previews.

The issue they had was being marked as phishing, not the SSL certificate warning page.

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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

this is why you disable google "safe browsing" in librewolf and use badblock instead

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Librewolf has Google "safe browsing" to disable...? Google?

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago

firefox has google safe browser api protection; librewolf disables it by default under librewolf settings.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/safe-browsing-firefox-focus

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[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 11 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Fuck you google. I can't see youtube videos with my browser because google wants me to sign in. Tells me it is protecting the community.

BULLSHIT.

Because google doesnt make me sign in to view or edit someone elses google docs they are sharing. Which one is more important google? Assholes.

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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

jellyfin had a similar issue too for a long time for servers exposed to the internet. google would always reblock the domains soon after unblocking them. I think they solved it in the latest update. Basically it's that google's scraping bots think that all jellyfin servers are a scam that imitate a "real" website.

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 21 points 11 months ago

But the malvertisements on Google's front page are ok, I guess

[–] MalReynolds@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What is the usecase for exposing jellyfin to the outernet anyway ?

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

What's the usecase for Netflix? Same case.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

watching it remotely, like at friends. even if you can access it on your phone through VPN, the smart TV won't be able to use it

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago

Deadly to their margins by 0.000000000000000000000000000000000001%

[–] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago

I got a 'dangerous site' warning and then prompts for crap on my Vaultwarden instance (didn't see it on Immich but this was a while ago). I think I had to prove I owned the domain with some DNS TXT records then let them "recheck" the domain. It seems to have worked.

[–] oneser@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Similar issues were reported with aves libre early this week, maybe it's related?

https://github.com/deckerst/aves/issues/1802

[–] artyom@piefed.social 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

From the OP:

Google Safe Browsing looks to be have been built without consideration for open-source or self-hosted software. Many popular projects have run into similar issues, such as:

  • Jellyfin

  • YunoHost

  • n8n

  • NextCloud

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure it's all accidental and coincidental that open source project that rival Google just weirdly got flagged as being dangerous. Google also doesn't know how this happened, it just did! Magic!

[–] exu@feditown.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It probably is accidental, but they don't care enough to fix the root problem

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[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Was also flagged recently.
In my case it was the root domain which is

  1. Geofiltered to only my own Country in Cloudflare
  2. Geofiltered to only my country in my firewall
  3. Protected by Authelia (except the root domain which says 404 when accessing)

So....IDK what they want from me :p My domain doesnt serve public websites (like a blog) destined for public consumption...

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[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Google flags F-Droid updates...

Why would people have Google security going on if they have set up F-Droid as their appstore? Doesn't that defeat the entire purpose?

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[–] spaghettiwestern@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Google Safe Browsing looks to be have been built without consideration for open-source or self-hosted software.

IMO Google Save Browsing was built with consideration for open-source and self-hosted software, but it has nothing to do with user safety, just like blocking Android apps from 3rd party sites has nothing to do with user safety. The harder they make it to move away from their products by making using alternatives difficult, the more money they make and money is now the only objective. Even if this only adds a fraction of a fraction of a percent to their profit it's something Google will implement.

The old social contract of businesses being of benefit to the community as a whole in addition to making a profit is long gone.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 months ago

Hopefully your Immich server isn't public facing...

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