As a Westerner, I think a lot of this sentiment comes from how far advanced China is in comparison to our own societies. I am forced to essentially step over homeless people on my way to class while China has eliminated absolute poverty. I am ostracized for studying principles of Marxist economics while China has built the most successful economy of the century based upon them. When pressed, I always acknowledge that China has a long way to go. I don't think the work culture is sustainable, I don't always agree with their foreign policy, and social dynamics can be reactionary. However, I would never lead with those criticisms because I'm not Chinese and I live in the most corrupt, capitalist country on earth. It's much more important for my own community to be exposed to the juxtaposition between active Capitalism and Socialism, and for me that involves sharing China's successes without constantly qualifying that my support is critical.
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I do not glorify China, but I'm sure it comes across that way when I am defending China and their successes against a lib. There's just so much shit and propaganda to overcome. Of course China has its flaws, and that's why people full all across China participate in the CPC.
This. There’s so much anti-China rhetoric that you wouldn’t be able to counter that without appearing a bit like glorifying it (and I guess it’s easy to get carried away as well).
Exactly. Good faith and nuanced conversation can only be had between comrades and sane people.
I have no problem acting like China is utopia (and similar topics) against deranged libs and haters, because their game is pretending like China is total hell. There is no good faith convo to be had with them, give in an inch and you will "lose". Xi can save 99% of humanity and the moment you admit yes 1% was left out, you just gave control of the narrative to these bad faith actors who will continue to focus on the 1% as they blind everyone from the 99%, fk that.
Plus when the overall atmosphere is so skewed, you are kind of forced to choose between going extreme or be useless and not getting through to bystanders.