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...I could have told you that 🤷

Source: https://x.com/BriannaWu/status/1984574165643403370

Not my usual kind of source (Xitter), but I want any centrists out there who ask trans people to "just get along" / compromise with actual hate groups that want them eradicated to know that it doesn't work.

There is no such thing as a reasonable bigot, by definition.

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I feel like I'd rather die for having to much faith in humanity than too little. And on that metric, I can't help but think BriannaWu was doing something right approaching right-wing nutjobs the way she did.

But more importantly, I'd rather not die in either of the aforementioned ways. What she did was definitely done out of (perhaps admirable) naïveté. And she's clearly grown as a person from the experience.

All that said, I don't know that she's got the best positions on everything. She says she believes that "trans women don't belong in women's sports" and she wants a "middle ground on bathrooms", both of which seem... problematic (even if the right wing wasn't so maximalist and radical about things.) And that part makes me wonder if the rest of the tweet was made in good faith, honestly.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Even if it is, she needs to sit her ass down and talk to other trans people irl. Like, this is terminally ill online brainrot and it's internet famous brainrot. Ms Wu needs therapy, she needs to go to a day of remembrance ceremony, and she needs to delete Twitter.

She comes to us as a sister again, but she still ain't treating us as one. We don't call each other family because it's some quirky thing, we do it because our community is filled with people who lost our families over this, where people we know will be buried with the wrong name. So yeah, she's my sister, but I don't think she thinks of us as such and I think she's been very out of touch with us for a long time.

[–] NessaSola@eviltoast.org 4 points 2 days ago

Naaaah, she was throwing around the Cass Review last I checked (a year ago). This wasn't a virtuous arbitration between two differently informed parties. She's always done reactionary politicking and shouted "lalala cant hear you" whenever forced to break bread with mainstream trans advocacy.

Cheers to her if she's opened her eyes a bit, but I'm not holding my breath.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

Progressives have given so much ground that their encampment is on middle-ground.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

Better late than never but bitch we ALL warned you

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It's easy to dunk on how wrong she used to be, Brianna absolutely and clearly was. But now that even she agrees, it's not super helpful to mock her about it.

There are a oodles of different social pressures to conform for trans women, I truly understand her motivation. Girl let her internalized transphobia take the wheel and went look for nonexistent middle ground. Especially early in transition it's alluring to be *one of the good ones" and get a very specific type of applause for it.

We need to recognize that Bri didn't have to admit her faults, glad she did, but even on far more trivial issues most folk struggle. I'm glad she got here, and I look forward to her being better advocate for our rights. But her past should only be as an example for others, not a crudgel to mock her previous bargaining.

Welcome Hon, glad to see ya. ♥️

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Brianna should go home and read, forever.

She was wrong. She remains wrong. The most help she can be to anyone is to butt the fuck out.

The trans movement in no wise needed a quisling to suck up to TERFs, and we aren't going to coddle her for getting what she was told she would.

This is not a matter of innocent ignorance. This was a matter of willfully ignoring all of the people telling you what would happen, complete with historical record.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely agree that Brianna needs to log the fuck off, de-center herself as any sort of repetitive of the community and sort out her own internalized transphobia. She isn't even close off the hook.

This is not a matter of innocent ignorance. This was a matter of willfully ignoring all of the people telling you what would happen, complete with historical record.

100%. I agree completely. She ignored the broader trans community and perpetuated harm, all for selfish self-congratulatory reasons. But what I'm saying is that she recognized the futility and is starting to listen. This no "forgive and forget", but we can't condemn her for admitting she was wrong.

I just don't want others with misguided bigoted talking points thinking that they are trapped in that echo chamber.

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[–] NessaSola@eviltoast.org 4 points 2 days ago

Sounds great IF she does agree. She's dropped this ball before. I agree with you, except very tentatively.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

I agree in large part, I think she needs to step away from the internet and discourse for a while and actually connect with trans people in real life. Hit up a support group and listen, go to day of remembrance and hang around for a while after just talking about life with people, stuff like that.

I haven't forgiven her yet, but she's still my sister, she just needs to get her shit together and stop hurting the family. And that includes learning that her middle ground is still gonna make us second class citizens (and it's easy to accept it for yourself, but when it's others you care about it's harder, it's why you need community).

I will however say, she's not fresh out, she was out when she was a major target of gamergate like a decade ago. Like idk how she didn't learn by watching Blaire White get used in the same way.

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[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago

The fact that this is dated Nov 1st... How the hell could it take you this long to figure it out??

[–] powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

TBH this is probably just more grifting from Brianna Wu. Are there any actual sources for "laugh as she got aids from being raped" type comments? afaik terfs would be more like "that's unfortunate but not our problem"

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 days ago

Someone lived under a rock.

[–] MisterOwl@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I have no sympathy whatsoever.

Fuck off and have the day you voted for.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Oh… I know… I’ll walk through the chainsaw robot cave… they are triggered by motion… they tear anything that moves to shreds… yeah, that’s where I’m going to walk…

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

that's a lib waking up. they get up to speed quick once they feel a little nudge.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Uncle Tom transitioned to Aunty Tom.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Stop 👏🏼 arguing 👏🏼 about 👏🏼 trans 👏🏼 issues 👏🏼

She's right about one thing, it's a slope we can't gain any traction on right now, and the more time we spend on it, the more we slide backwards with both actual trans rights and voter opinion.

Every time someone attacks on trans rights just say "shut the hell up, who cares, look at the disaster of an economy we're all suffering in."

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago

Fuck that. Trans people are my friends. Transphobes can catch these hands.

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