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Indulge me for the coming delusion, but if we ignore who this is, forget all the reasons we know that we can't trust him, and allow ourselves just a few moments to hope that we could live in such a world.

A world where manual labor is no longer needed, where people can just exist as large mammals are meant to exist. Robots will handle it all and we can just do as we please... and the robots are going to be plentiful because once enough of the process of making a robot becomes automated, the cost of it will go to zero. But to get there it is going to require a ton of money... these robots are going to be way too expensive for people to actually buy them, so investors and governments will help out. The investors will eventually lose everything, but that will put us on the way to having everything we need to be created through completely automated systems.

Of course, there will still be jobs for those who really want them - or more likely, who want them and are good at them - or even more likely, who knows the right people... but if we can get our basic needs taken care of it night not fully end poverty but it would be a step in the right direction.

But, alas... It's Musk saying it so it's only to further enrich himself and won't actually happen.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 193 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Uugghh! Every time I hear him speak, I am reminded of just how stupid he is. He thinks like a 12 year old.

Not one mention of how robots that do all the work for us, is going to solve the problem of how people are supposed to be able to afford to live, when no one has a job anymore.

Are you volunteering to pay for everyone's UBI, Elon? No? That's what I thought.

[–] Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (11 children)

He is not a smart man. He maintains a facade of supreme intelligence, somehow, and continually tricks people into believing it. If anything, it's more a reflection on the American people than anything else, and that's incredibly disappointing to type out.

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[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 28 points 1 week ago

Every time I hear him speak, I am reminded of just how stupid he is.

I know this is common knowledge on Lemmy, but damn it's still nice to read. When I talk to folks around town, they all think he's a genius... it's really jarring.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago

The article is useless because it provides no sources, and only links back to itself. But yes, basically he says UBI "will be necessary", as if the world's first trillionaire would ever support such a thing.

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[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 80 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Quite a claim from the guy who labeled things “Full self driving” and “Autopilot”. 🙄

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's because despite what many got fooled, he isn't an engineer, he is just good at selling shit to people.

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 11 points 1 week ago

He likes to throw out technical terms to impress people with how knowledgeable he is. Those who actually have knowledge can see how miserably clueless he is and laugh at him, but the public don't see that.

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[–] ezeno789@piefed.social 61 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Can someone ask him to clarify what he mean by "eliminate poverty"?

Because there are a couple of way to do that which I'm not too found to.

[–] webp@mander.xyz 12 points 1 week ago

AI executioners.

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Elon, this isn't 2014. Only your die hard fans believe you.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Minutes earlier, the crowd cheered and broke out into chants of "Elon, Elon!" as shareholders approved Musk's $1 trillion pay package.

There's still plenty of them.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It’s crazy how we all know this dude is the male cracked out version of Elizabeth Holmes and getting paid unfathomable sums of money to commit all of these obvious and serious crimes in public.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 17 points 1 week ago (9 children)

That's not money, that's power. Money quits being money somewhere around a million dollars a year-ish, call it 100M lump sum. Above that, more money isn't an abstract thing you buy goods, services and real-estate with, it's power: the power to command other people to do your bidding.

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[–] bebabalula@feddit.dk 39 points 1 week ago (5 children)

You know what would end poverty? A trillion dollars

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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is this the guy that did a Nazi salute at your President's inauguration?

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Judge for yourselves!

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago

grok called him MECHAHITLER.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

By "eliminate poverty" he means let robots do all the jobs the poors do and let the poors die.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Eliminate poverty" vs "E-L-I-M-I-N-A-T-E poverty"

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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is astonishing.

He's hoarding the profits of automation for himself, while socializing the lost wages and poverty that will come from this.

But the issue is that we know full well that they'll escape paying out their massive profits as taxes, which is what MUST happen for the model to work. Shareholder payouts need to be taxed at like 50+% rate or even more.

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

There needs to be a hard cap on wealth at around 100 mil, but defined relative some multiple of a median yearly salary.

If the salaries grow, the total wealth cap can grow too. And vice versa.

Large wealth should be about luxury and having lots of toys, and not about being a law-making aristocrat who is themselves outside the reach of the law like now.

People who hit wealth cap should have no privacy, and be banned from any interactions with the government. There should be some trade-offs to huge wealth. A mega wealthy person should lose something for the priviledge of having so much wealth. Also mandatory psychiatric tests, to make sure they are human and not a lizard in a human suit. OK, I am joking about the last part.

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[–] CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

LMAO! My friend, he's just saying it so he can get the government to buy a bunch of robots so he can meet the Tesla pay agreement requirements and become a trillionaire. There are so many reasons what your fantasy can't and won't happen.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 31 points 1 week ago

They aren't going to provide for people's basic needs after the robots take their jobs. They're going to keep the excess productivity for themselves. Just as they've always done. The only way that changes is by force, and by the time people get desperate enough for that they'll have an army of robots at their disposal. We need to tackle that capitalist problem before we get to the point automation taking all the jobs.

Elon's bullshit isn't going to be that point though.

[–] Adulated_Aspersion@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Isn't this the same guy who tweeted that he would end world hunger for something less than $6 billion if the World Food Programme would supply a plan? And then WFP supplied the plan. And then Musk just......didn't supply the funs to prevent people from starving.

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[–] artyom@piefed.social 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Musk also said that Optimus would change life for incarcerated people at the meeting. Instead of physically jailing prisoners, Optimus could "follow you around and stop you from doing crime," he said.

JFC, I can't believe he actually said that out loud...

"AI and robots will replace all jobs," he wrote. "Working will be optional, like growing your own vegetables, instead of buying them from the store."

Great. Who is going to pay you to grow vegetables? Can you pay rent and medical bills with vegetables?

Also fuck Business Insider and every other website that provides zero sources and exclusively links back to their own fucking site.

Doing some research, he said basically we will need UBI. As if that's even remotely possible or that the world's first trillionaire would ever support it...

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[–] FrankFrankson@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Elon is a fucking grifter. Tesla sales plummeted about 50% after Elon's public nazi shit and the company is somehow not losing money. Elon starts claiming Tesla is an AI and robotics company. They have no viable AI products (Tesla self driving is shit compared to the competition) and their robotics are decades behind conpeting companies (like boston dynamics) yet somehow Tesla still is making money.....with 50% reduced sales and dumping money into product development for things that are far from ready. I bet someone is cooking the books for Tesla so hard the whole company is constantly about to burst into flames.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 14 points 1 week ago

It also has ties to the government where a lot of money is still coming from. Money that should probably go to NASA instead.

I also believe that there are ways to inflate apparent wealth (or rather, value of stock), which Musk is a master of. It will pop eventually and boy will it be nice to see him fall. Not that he'll ever be really poor, but still.

[–] marv99@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So his robots will eliminate the poor?

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[–] oyzmo@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Perhaps he should get Full Self Driving to work first... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not even going to look up what "Optimus" is. I don't waste time on this clown anymore.

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[–] shadowfax13@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 week ago

in the oligarchs dialect it translates to “eliminate the poor not useful for slave labour”

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I too hope and dream for Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism; however, to achieve such lofty goals would require challenging the status quo and "The System" is built, and depends entirely on that not changing. So yeah, I doubt we'll achieve that anytime soon or at all seeing how well we're protecting the climate... IMO we'll all be ~~living in a dystopian Mad Max-like world~~ dead.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We'd likely have to go through socialism before that anyways so yeah.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He sounds quite deranged. Maybe he needs a timeout in a sift padded room. Without internet.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

he needs to lay off the ketamine and cocaine.

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[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He probably means it'll feed the poor into a wood chipper.

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[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

It’s totally achievable; he just glossed over the part where most of the world’s population is wiped out by global warming and the only people who survive are Elon and those he deems worthy.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago

Can the rich should stop running all the cool stuff, please? Optimus, Anduril, palantir, lambas, mithril... Every childhood memory tainted by evil businessmen

[–] gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He also said in his shareholder speech that Optimus would replace the penal system by following offenders around to prevent them committing crimes. He's a fucking moron who's been able to get away with making up complete bullshit to pump Tesla's stock price for years and for some reason people STILL treat him with credulity.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

Lets imagine things go just as he wants and we have army of robots doing all the work and such. Robots who he controls. All over the world, most likely, if they are really useful. People would start to depend on them more and more. Imagine if someone could turn off your every convenicence, or your entire country at a whim?

These people already have all the money in the world, yet they will never be satisfied. What is even left for them except complete domination of all of us?

[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Instead of physically jailing prisoners, Optimus could "follow you around and stop you from doing crime," he said

This is going to last all of 30 seconds as that is the amount of time it'll take for a criminal to hop a cyclone fence and take off never to be seen again. Or we can have the 10 minute scenario where criminal and friends take sledgehammers to the thing and sell it for scrap.

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[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’m not sure if this kind of thing is just about enriching himself. Of course that’s a big part of it. But he also wants to be a great man of history. He wants to be the person who saves the world. He wants to be forever remembered as the greatest hero who ever lived.

He won’t, of course. Because he’s a clueless idiot. A clueless idiot who managed to fuck up his own PR so hard that he’s burnt away the reputation as a genius that he used to have.

But he really does want to be adored.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In late October 2021, Elon Musk was challenged to end world hunger by David Beasley, the director of the UN's World Food Programme. Beasley claimed that a small portion of Musk's wealth could solve world hunger, and Musk responded on Twitter that he would sell Tesla stock to do so, provided the UN could provide a detailed, transparent accounting of how the $6 billion would be spent. The WFP then released a plan, but Musk did not donate the money.

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[–] Teal@piefed.zip 12 points 1 week ago

Someone didn’t learn lessons from Wall-E. Who am I kidding, his ego is too inflated to learn.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

There are established methods of eliminating poverty. They are decried by the right-wing as bad.

Just look at why there are so few homeless and incarcerated people in the most developed European nations... they must be doing something right.

[–] PixelatedSaturn@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Come on, nobody is going to eliminate poverty. That's not on the agenda.

Plus we don't even have a road how to make robots that could make other robots.

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