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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago

-looks at watch- Really?

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Did it...not have that already? I swear it did, but honestly I thought Exchange was dead long ago.

[–] turkalino@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 months ago

Until now, Thunderbird users in Exchange hosted environments often relied on IMAP/POP protocols or third-party extensions

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

Exchange is very much kicking and Thunderbird had ews support for some time but it was in beta.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm glad they have it but adding EWS support at the end of 2025 is nothing to brag about. EWS came with Exchange 2007, almost 20 years ago!

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yeah but it looks like this includes support for organization Office 365 accounts, so it's not just something that only worked 20 years ago. If it only supported outdated Exchange servers that would be one thing, but it seems to support modern ones.

[–] ApeNo1@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Microsoft announced a while back that the end of EWS is coming for exchange online which means M365 accounts. They will start blocking EWS requests from October next year and only support access via Graph API. I understand the Thunderbird team are also working on Graph API support.

EWS EOL

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sure but as @ApeNo1@lemmy.world noted MS is ending support for EWS in M365 in less than 12 months! So it took them 18 years to release something that still doesn't fully work (no Calendaring support, WTF?) and won't even be usable by this time next year.

🤦

If it only supported outdated Exchange servers that would be one thing

The only Exchange server that ISN'T outdated at this point is the 4 month old Exchange Server Subscription Edition. All other versions are now EoL and have no support. So unless you have a very particular need to keep your EX environment On-Prem then you may as well migrate to EXO.

If you are already using EXO then Thunderbird's new EWS support will stop working next October.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

EWS came with Exchange 2007, almost 20 years ago!

Yay! Now do Windows and Syslog, or windows and SNMP.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago

Yep, but still better than never 🤷‍♂️. I was really looking forward to it as I recently migrated from Windows to Linux only to find out that it doesn't work for me for some reason.

[–] purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Great! We can get (almost) a whole year of using it with Exchange Online before EWS is turned off!

[–] Doorknob@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

They've said that this is a big stepping stone towards support for Microsoft's graph api and lots of on-prem servers will still be using EWS for ages to come.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So Microsoft is going to ditch exchange soon?

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago
[–] Matty_r@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Awesome. I really needed this about 5 years ago, but I'm glad they've added it for sure.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 2 months ago

I've been using Nine as exchange client since 2014, it's working great. Didn't receive any updates in well over a year though, but that's hopefully because there's nothing needed.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

Awesome! Previously, Evolution was the only Linux client which supported Exchange, and Evolution is… well…. 😕

[–] trk@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Better than just having imap (So difficult to sync contacts and calendar)....

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So difficult to sync contacts and calendar

If only there was a well-defined protocol in a series of RFCs for that, AND people could use more than one protocol in a binary.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

You mean WebDAV and CalDAV?
Why use twenty protocols, when you could use only one?

[–] macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have never had an issue for my clients.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't have any problem with imap.
But Exchange bundles all syncing very neatly.

I wonder if the hatred would be the same if it was developed/designed by L.Torvalds...