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[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Is bad empanada not a ML? I thought he was.

He seems to have an impressive ability to be hated by absolutely everyone.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you understand his post and what it's about?

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I thought so, but the way you phrased this seems to be implying I don't? Do you want to elaborate?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

China passed the United States UN resolution to disarm the Palestinian resistance, basically reversing their stance and rewarding Israel for 2 years of genocide.

This goes very much against Marxist-Leninism. But many online "lefties" have bound their definition of ML to China, and short-circuited when being confronted with China supporting imperialism. They say "read theory" when theory clearly disproves their position.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I see, so he's not criticizing MLs as a whole, just the large number that don't follow their own principles. That makes a bit more sense.

However, from my perspective I've hardly ever met any that seemed to have consistent principles. The only core idea seemed to be whatever China does is good. So it's a bit interesting that Palestine is finally able to break the illusion for some people. Kinda the same for a lot of former supporters of the west. I guess seeing the brutality so clearly makes it harder to swallow the lies we're inundated with.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Yes the amount of actual anti-imperialists who don't just oppose genocide becuase it conveniently aligns with their national interests are steadily getting filtered out. We had a great moment recently with all the American surpremacists supporting Graham Platner doing mass murder in Iraq, and now all the China supporters. I was very pleasantly surprised by TheGrayZone condemning the resolution though.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Bullshit. I’ve never heard any Marxist-Leninist support Chinese imperialism, nor unwilling to criticize China. They just don’t play along with made up propaganda like the west’s narratives on Tiananmen Square nor the Uyghur radicalization.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So you're saying the person at the top in the post screenshot is not ML?

Also, why am I banned from Lemmygrad?

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Don’t know. They’re not making the claim you’re accusing them of, so it doesn’t matter either way.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don’t like it, but it seems like Israel is increasingly telegraphing their willingness to use nuclear weapons, and everyone’s scared and throwing the Palestinians under the bus.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You people really don’t understand the threat of nuclear annihilation anymore.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yemen was shooting missiles at Ben Gurion airport and blocking the entire red sea. Iran barraged Tel Aviv.

China not being able to sign a UN resolution out of 'fear of nukes' is just cope.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Such childish naivety of the threat of nuclear annihilation is a threat to the continued existence of our species. You need to grow up.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh great argument I now fully support sending 5 gajillion dollars to AIPAC or else they will nuke me.

This is truly a great moment to weed out the true anti Imperialists to people who will do any level of mental gymnastics for China.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I really feel like they used to hire a better caliber of astroturfers. You think you can pull off pretending to be anti-imperialist, while pushing imperialist narratives about China and downplaying the threat of nuclear war?

No wonder you’re banned from leftist instances.