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[–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I understand your desire for change NOW but the unfortunate reality is we do not yet have the conditions for it. There's plenty of room to criticize many of these figures on the left in the US for various things - I have plenty of smoke for them as well.

BUT while class consciousness remains nearly nonexistent in this country we must engage with the masses where they are at. We must be in the governmental structures that the masses are engaged in so we can be part of the conversation. We must run cadre candidates in elections EVEN WHEN THEY MIGHT LOSE (tactically though we only have so much capacity) so we can spread our message to more people. We must go to the trade unions and tenant unions so we are where the people closest to our movement are.

Left coms will call me a reformist for this take but it is simply a necessary evil we must contend with in the interim. Even once we take control of society we will still have to reckon with the capitalist structures we inherit. We will not be able to do away with it in one fell swoop it simply does not work this way. It will be a decidedly incremental path of dismantling them one by one so we can return power back to the working class citizen.

The primary goal MUST be a pragmatic takeover of the state by using and abusing the systems that exist today, doing what we can to expand the permissibility of our messaging until we no longer need these systems anymore. Organizing a true socialist movement that will not become subordinated to liberals (or hell even the rightist or far leftist socialist tendencies) or worse necessitates a more strategic and patient path towards global liberation and emancipation.

[–] limer@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

I noticed a difference between two sides is that one is groups that messed with local politics and the other is personalities only.

This is because most local politics, and organizing for socialism at a community level, collapsed in the last two generations.

[–] korendian@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Why should anyone care what an unironic North Korea supporter thinks about American politics?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The Black Panther Party had close ties with the DPRK, so that's not really unreasonable. Leftist groups historically have had support for the DPRK, especially in context of the US Empire's attempted genocide of northern Koreans.

[–] bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

unironic North Korea supporter

If this is what it takes to get on your hate list, then why are you here?! Youd have to add most users from this instance and our wonderful admins too because were all marxists here who dont drink the empire koolaid on DPRK 😂

[–] GlitchyDigiBun@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I think he likes seeing the funny red number on his profile go up. They think red is the people's color or something.