I can drink coffee pretty slow, but I don't think I can drink it that slow
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Ah get outta here! Next time they’ll say that co pilot also chooses my furry porn and controls my buttplug while it codes for me.

A more appropriate line would be that Copilot can shit out code faster than you can pinch off your own loaf.
Good thing finishing your coffee is many sips. Because Copilot certainly doesn't feel fast. It often feels so slow you wonder whether waiting is worth it.
I read “users respond with mercyless trolling” in the teaser, I have to open the article.
where are my penguin boys at. 🐧
seriously people. the majority of you don't have to put up with this, you know that right?
I do NOT want to have ditch Windows after this long. Microsoft. Please don't just carve a big, Copilot-pilot-shape hole out of Windows and weld it in there, expecting that that is somehow what your users want.
Of course, I do look forward to the brave new era of "Sam Altman will shut you down unless" being the new "run as administrator"
Love how they're pretending that an LLM is useful for any task that needs precision.
What they forget to mention is that you then spend the rest of the week to fix the bugs it introduced and to explain why your code deleted the production database...
If thats what they are aiming at, I feel like their AI is actually suppose to be the pilot and the user the copilot
Technically true, but nobody said the code will be at all functional. I'm pretty sure I can finish about 800000 coffees before Copilot generates anything usable that is longer than 3 lines.
I would rather paint a portrait by myself, spending the time to do it, rather than asking some computer prompt to spit me out a picture. Same logic applies with coding for me.
By the headline statement, that it should be complete and works 100%. Big doubt.
No, just complete. Whatever the dude does may have morning to do with what you needed it to do, but it will be "done"
Depends. If it's a script that will like, cut your video file every 10 seconds with ffmpeg or something simple. Yeah it will one-shot it.
My problem is that the dev and stage environments are giving me 502 gateway errors when hitting only certain api endpoints from the app gateway. My real problem is devops aren't answering my support tickets and telling me which terraform var file I gotta muck with and tell me what to fix on it. I'm sure you'll be fixed soon though right copilot?
yeah but then you have to fix everything in the code that they didn't get right.
like using it to automate a shell is fine; but trusting it blindly and treating it as the finishing product? you're delusional.
yes but all the code will be wrong and you will spend your entire day chasing stupid mistakes and hallucinations in the code. I'd rather just write the code myself thanks.
Yeah! I can make my own stupid mistakes and hallucinations, thank you very much!
I was finished with Windows before Microshit finished Copilot.
It says it will finish the code, it doesn't say the code will work.
Also just because the code works, doesn't mean it's good code.
I've had to review code the other day which was clearly created by an LLM. Two classes needed to talk to each other in a bit of a complex way. So I would expect one class to create some kind of request data object, submit it to the other class, which then returns some kind of response data object.
What the LLM actually did was pretty shocking, it used reflection to get access from one class to the private properties with the data required inside the other class. It then just straight up stole the data and did the work itself (wrongly as well I might add). I just about fell of my chair when I saw this.
So I asked the dev, he said he didn't fully understand what the LLM did, he wasn't familiar with reflection. But since it seemed to work in the few tests he did and the unit tests the LLM generated passed, he thought it would be fine.
Also the unit tests were wrong, I explained to the dev that usually with humans it's a bad idea to have the person who wrote the code also (exclusively) write the unit tests. Whenever possible have somebody else write the unit tests, so they don't have the same assumptions and blind spots. With LLMs this is doubly true, it will just straight up lie in the unit tests. If they aren't complete nonsense to begin with.
I swear to the gods, LLMs don't save time or money, they just give the illusion they do. Some task of a few hours will take 20 min and everyone claps. But then another task takes twice as long and we just don't look at that. And the quality suffers a lot, without anyone really noticing.
So I asked the dev, he said he didn’t fully understand what the LLM did, he wasn’t familiar with reflection.
Big baffling facepalm moment.
If they would at least prefix the changeset description with that it'd be easier to interpret and assess.
They’ve been great for me at optimizing bite sized annoying tasks. They’re really bad at doing anything beyond that. Like astronomically bad.
Why would unit tests not be written by the same person? That doesn’t make a lot of sense…
They did say why they're doing it
Whenever possible have somebody else write the unit tests, so they don’t have the same assumptions and blind spots.
Did that not make sense to you?
I usually wouldn't do that, because it's a bigger investment. But it certainly makes logical sense to me and is something teams can weigh and decide on.
Great description of a problem I noticed with most LLM generated code of any decent complexity. It will look fantastic at first but you will be truly up shit creek by the time you realise it didn't generate a paddle.
Copilot keeps finishing my code for me in near real time... it completely disrupts my train of thought and my productivity dropped tremendously. I finally disabled it.
I LIKE writing code, stop trying to take the stuff away that I WANT to do and instead take away the stuff I HATE doing.
I wish I could get it to stop finishing comments for me. It’s like some jackass is trying to complete my sentence for me but gets it completely wrong every time and it breaks my train of thought.
What I don't want AI to do:
- write code for me
- write fixes for me
What I want it to do:
- find bugs and tell me about them (but still don't fix them)
Ooh, unemployment! How exciting! I love Microsoft now.
Seriously who the hell are they trying to sell this to?
Are they just that desperate to keep the hype train going?
Business owners. People that don't want to spend money on annoying stuff like wages.
CEOs are convinced that if they can get rid of those pesky expensive engineers that idea people will magically make things work.
AI is the promise of slaves 2.0
I had a bit of a breakthrough with some personal growth with my code today.
I learned a bit more about entity framework that my company is using for a project, and was able to create a database table, query it, add/delete/update, normal CRUD stuff.
I normally work mostly on front end code, so it was rewarding to learn a new skill and see the data all the way from the database to the UI and back - all my code. I felt great after doing a code review this afternoon to make sure I wasn’t missing anything, and we talked about some refactoring to make it better.
AI will never give you that.
Copilot, turn on the gas stove without the pilot. Copilot, in 3 hours light the pilot.