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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

Unironically, a bit. These people are pure ego, and being booed is actually a thing they take great offense at

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 33 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

These folks just don't get it.

Let's put aside the discussion of whether their enthusiasm for the tech is merited or not, that is beside the point.

A commencement speaker is not there to talk about themselves or their favorite things. They are not there to teach the graduates anything or try to debate with the graduates.

A commencement speaker is there to honor and respect the graduates. To commend them on how far they have come and express optimism for what they will bring to society in the future. To make them feel appreciated for all they have done and are about to do. To feel inspired by what they have accomplished and the possibilities they bring to society. There has been and will be plenty of opportunity to educate, debate, and convince them, but this is not the venue for any of that.

Speaking about how "awesome" AI is and how they should be grateful for it is disrespecting them by failing to let them be the focus of their own graduation.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

designed to respond to the question with some words while not actually answering the question.

Ok, I see why they are so enamored of LLM chat...

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

It happens, but it generally takes financial failure to drive off the people with pure money motives and yet still be alive enough for interested parties to keep it going out of actual interest and passion.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

That's why in most of the examples, the goodness returns after something like a market collapse that scares off the investors leaving only the people with instrinsic interest in doing it right.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Oh sure they have to influence, but I would expect them to do so a bit more on the down low. If they have a whiff of self awareness, they know this will just do more harm than good to their interests.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Hell, that will happen at tens of millions. The magnitude of a billion is crazy.

Even if they are more driven to keep going, others turn to more philanthropic pursuits. Well before a billion the number becomes more like a high score rather than giving any quality of life improvements, so what's the point of getting more? Most will want to mean more to the world than just some high score. So accumulated wealth starts getting directed away for all but sociopaths that relish the high score in and of itself.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

A celebrity graduation speaker that actually has something thoughtful to say that is realistic, relevant, and inspirational to the graduates? That's crazy, everyone knows celebrity graduation speakers are supposed to be self absorbed and prattling on about the stuff that excites them without connecting to the graduates, except maybe to be dismissive of the graduates and look down on them.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Wozniak era of Apple was pretty much all upside. Whatever less than nice things to say at Apple almost certainly came about more than a decade after he had left them.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Of course, this argument is a pretty piss poor one when the example held up is Musk...

His first jolt was selling a website to a relatively clueless Compaq that did nothing with it except throw money at Elon. No idea if Elon's site was any good or not, but it didn't matter because the reality is that it folded without an enduring impact as part of the dot-com collapse. He used his winnings to try to make X.com the first time, and was a comparative failure next to Paypal, which, somehow, agreed to merge and put him in charge and he almost tanked it. Then ebay bought it out and Musk got maddening amount of money for doing nothing but screw it up.

Tesla is probably the first example of him not actively screwing it up, though his drama around "I wanna call myself a founder" was dumb. That said, any investor could have done it, so his 'value' was his lottery-like wins leading to that point.

There are others that are arguable, though recently had it happen where someone kept giving out names of impressive and seemingly valuable 'billionaires', and we kept checking and every last one were 'only' millionaires. So it seems like 'billionaire' remains a stupidly over the top concept that isn't particularly redeemable, with the defensibly decent folks staying under a billion through not being super greedy and/or philanthropy.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Neuralink I suppose is an example where his appetite for crazy risk might pay off or be terrible.

FSD implies no one else is trying for self driving, and that's no shortage there for that ambition.

Humanoid robots at scale, they haven't displayed a capability to suggest they have any better shot than others, and there's plenty of less loud companies trying. None are particularly close, so Elon stands relatively alone in proclaiming success without the proof.

I don't know that his crazy appetite for risk is on display with SpaceX. I would argue most of their real successes were relatively lower risk, and generally when the companies indulge musk at his craziest are like the other comment says, comparative failures.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Daniel Jackson

He may die a fair bit, but he won't stay dead for long.

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