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US president sends envoys to Moscow with peace plan that recognises Russia’s war gains

Vladimir Putin said legal recognition of occupied regions as Russian territory is one of the key issues in negotiations over Donald Trump's peace plan Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump meet in Alaska in August 2025. Moscow says legal recognition of land it has conquered is a key issue in peace talks Credit: Andrew Caballero-Reynolds

The United States is poised to recognise Russia’s control over Crimea and other occupied Ukrainian territories to secure a deal to end the war.

The Telegraph understands that Donald Trump has sent his peace envoy Steve Witkoff and son-in-law Jared Kushner to make the direct offer to Vladimir Putin in Moscow.

The plan to recognise territory, which breaks US diplomatic convention, is likely to go ahead despite concerns among Ukraine’s European allies.

One well-placed source said: “It’s increasingly clear the Americans don’t care about the European position. They say the Europeans can do whatever they want.”

Russia’s president on Thursday said Washington’s legal recognition of Crimea and the Donetsk and Luhansk regions as Russian territory would be one of the key issues in negotiations over the US president’s peace plan.

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[–] Skiluros@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Corrupt GLP-1 addicted motherfuckers!

I used to always defend the US (even before 2014) on pragmatic grounds and due to the history of the 20th century. Americans tend to be slow, but they eventually do the right thing. They've done a lot of bad, but unlike russia and China they've also had genuine successes in their foreign policy such as promoting long-term democracy and freedom in Germany, Japan, Poland, the Baltic nations.

After they recognize russia's annextion of Crimea, Lugansk and Donetsk oblasts, they are de facto on par with Nicaragua, Cuba or North Korea as far as I am concerned.

And this is not merely a matter of far right Americans, the American centre-right (both party elites and the vast majority of their supporters, albeit not all) is very much responsible too. Vast majority of centre-right Americans (I've lived there for several, and I have close centre-right friends) are too well off to support true anti-corruption measures, the type that would take down many of the oligarchs that are the nexus of chauvinistic propaganda and corruption that enabled Trump. One example from my time in the US was Obama deciding to completely avoid any anti-crime measures in the financial industry in 2008 (a unique, historical opportunity).

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 10 points 2 months ago

China recently announced plans to take Taiwan by force after a call with Trump. I keep thinking what that conversation sounded like. Not too long after, Taiwan also announced a preparation for war by 2027.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 9 points 2 months ago

Alternative plan:

Landmine the shit out of the entirety of Ukraine, remove all GOP members from the red states, and move them to Ukraine. Move the Ukrainians to said red states. Let the MAGAts and GOPpers enjoy living next door to their favorite allies next door.

Also, all countries around Ukraine build massive fuckoff walls with no entry from Ukraine.

This plan is as equally practical and useful as anything that can come out of Russia or the US.