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Swiss voters on Sunday decisively rejected a call to require women to do national service in the military, civil protection teams or other forms, as all men must do already.

Official results. with counting still ongoing in some areas after a referendum, showed that more than half of Switzerland’s cantons, or states, had rejected the “citizen service initiative” by wide margins. That meant it was defeated, because proposals need a majority of both voters and cantons to pass.

Voters also heavily rejected a separate proposal to impose a new national tax on individual donations or inheritances of more than 50 million francs ($62 million), with the revenues to be used to fight the impact of climate change and help Switzerland meet its ambitions to have net-zero greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

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I thought everyone had to serve. Sad.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

As an American, I have no room at all to judge this decision. But

proposals need a majority of both voters and cantons to pass.

That sounds amazing. Let's do that, please.

I mean, straight popular vote would probably be better. But this could really do what the Electoral College stans say that it was made to do, without doing what it actually does.

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[–] Leomas@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The takes on here are wild as a Swiss dude.

[–] Leomas@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Hint: Mandatory service is a problem.

[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 days ago

That's a wild take ....

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Mandatory service is not a problem. As long as we live in a world with countries like russia mandatory service does more good than harm.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Isreal uses its mandatory service to get teenagers to support genocide.

[–] Leomas@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Mandatory service causes two main issues (for me): Bad, undisciplined armies and authoritization of the population.

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It is. Get with the times it's the 21st century. Modern men are equipped with better social tools and technologies to be able to tackle any problems that come their way without resorting to savagery that is violence. There's diplomacy, economic sanctions as well as international agreements to get Russia to stop what they are doing with a strongly worded letter. The sword may seems sharp, but nay the pen is mightier than the sword. Yet, it is men's fragile ego that prevents them from searching alternative solutions other than wanton violence. Oh Vritra, if we could eliminate all the men if the world, the world would a lot more peaceful, as the remaining people eat their crumpets and sips on their tea.

If Russians invade your country they'll have guns, not pens, and you'll need a plan to deal with them when they don't feel like negotiating.

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[–] SereneSadie@quokk.au 6 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Nazi collaborators continuing to be backwards idiots. What a surprise.

[–] Ibisalt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

you are a massive ignorant idiot. there is so much more to this story than just that.

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