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[–] meep_launcher@sh.itjust.works 6 points 15 hours ago

Look, Noam isn't wearing his glasses, he might think he's talking to Anthony Bourdain

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

The two guys calling you a "Tankie" in the comments.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

My man is just manufacturing up some consent

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (50 children)

EDIT : Thank you for your comments. Please don't send more messages, as everything that needs to be said has been said, and is now starting to tread the thin line between anti-zionism and anti-sematism.


I still don't get how he ended up in that position.

No, like seriously. Practically.

He's a fucking left wing linguistics professor. Even if he's a giant pedo, how does he afford to get a ticket to go to epstein island? If he can't afford it, why does epstein give him a free ride? He's on the opposite side to chomsky.

did the book sales for manufacturing consent get him that fucking rich?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Epstein was a major bundler and influencer in the liberal establishment, specifically within the US East Coast and the EU West Coast regions. Chompsky was also in this circle of influential political and media figures. Its not crazy that they'd run into each other any more than Epstein hobnobbing with any other Ivy League professors or national media figures or British Royals.

did the book sales for manufacturing consent get him that fucking rich?

More that knowing a guy like Epstein is what gets you regularly syndicated in news columns and invited as a guest onto TV shows. You could say the same about Larry Summers or Steven Pinker.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Very good question indeed. Sadly, it doesn't help that Chomsky keeps avoiding answering this and other related questions.

As someone so vocal about serious crimes going unpunished, I'd imagine he'd just openly say what's going on. If he's so adamant about staying silent, it only adds more doubt and further questions.

[–] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I think Chomsky is still nonverbal from his 2023 stroke.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

how does he afford to get a ticket to go to epstein island?

Epstein was a Mossad agent offering "honey pots" for kompromat and rule over the US/west. "You're a super interesting guy. I'm having a supermodel orgy in Bahamas with lots of other famous people. I can fly by and pick you up"... you're not doing anything wrong by saying yes.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 48 points 1 day ago (2 children)

His net worth is <$2M.

At that point in his career, Chomsky was getting invited everywhere because he was branded "the top intellectual in the world".

People would see him speak and not understand a damned word he said.

[–] bobzer@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

People would see him speak and not understand a damned word he said.

It's not like Chomsky understood anything he was saying outside of linguistics.

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[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

Rich and powerful people like Epstein like to collect influence and status and part of that status is collecting novelty. This is something money can't directly buy and is exclusive so they need it like the parasites they are. Part of Epstein's appeal to these ghouls was that not only would he make you rich and get you girls but he himself was "smart" end erudite and surrounded himself with the "best and brightest." This is why he consorted with people like Hawking and Chomsky; he collected their reputations in his bag and then could tell other ghouls hey look come to the island, you can meet the most famous physicist of all time and, maybe, bang some young girls.

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[–] Juice@midwest.social 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Epstein collected intellectuals. He bought whole science departments at MIT, and kept a brothel of soft intellectuals like Malcolm Gladwell (imo definitely participated in some extra curriculars with Epstein), Richard Dawkins, Stephen Pinker (whom JE voted off the island (heh) because he wouldn't corroborate JE's eugenicism) and many others.

Norm (I call him Norm now) Chomsky is a guy who will just like answer any emails that come to him. He's not difficult to get a response from. I think Epstein was good at handling intellectuals, and had a lot to offer researchers like Chomsky who wanted to know how to follow the money, and where the bodies were buried. Epstein's connections and insider knowledge to the CIA, Mossad, and Les Wexner are all legitimate enough reasons to spend time talking with him.

This isnt to shift blame or culpability away from Chomsky, just to say that Epstein and associates had developed a concrete basis for power and influence among intellectuals. It wasnt just taking advantage of underage young women for personal pleasure, but all rivers seem to run into that sea.

To me though it really illustrates how Chomsky was really an ivory-tower elitist. If there was ever proof that left wing ideas only matter when they lead to taking effective action in the struggle for liberation, then Chomsky's unrepentant associations with Epstein are a shining example. As if many of his "left wing" positions weren't already problematic enough, he made sure to put on full display whom is the real subject of his work, and it isnt the toiling and exploited classes. I have some ideological differences with him, but thankfully we don't need to worry about that. His actions speak to the actual nature of his ideas, so we need only gesture toward this photo as proof of how he demolished his own legacy, and how he doesnt deserve a place among those who actually struggle to educate people about the truth of our conditions.

May his work be forgotten. What a sad, pathetic man.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Beyond this seemingly damning image, what other evidence is there of Chomsky’s participation in miscreance and deviant behavior?

[–] Juice@midwest.social 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well, as a leftists I think its just extra disappointing. Like I'm not a syndicalist or anarchist, he wasnt my guy, but he was a left voice. He was critical of imperialism and shined a light on corruption and injustice.

Like when Chris Tucker appeared in flight logs its like, "oh the comedian? Weird," and maybe if I was a comedian I'd feel different. But CT also denied any actual associations. Chomsky's just like "yeah he's my friend, its none of your business" honesty is a virtue and all that, but the way he has attacked and criticized other leftists over the years, to see him defend this literal avatar of abuse, corruption and imperialism, is quite revealing.

But my personal orientation toward Norm hasn't changed much. I had read a couple of his books but he's kind of meh imo. Obviously a very hard working and prolific academic, though academics can be disappointing from a leftist perspective. I doubt he had much time or interest to engage in the kinds of abuse that made Epstein notorious.

I think Norm knew about the abuse and corruption, and definitely about his role in geopolitics. And maybe Epstein helped him out once personally in a way that deeply affected him. People are complicated, and Chomsky's loyalty is maybe admirable, though such circumstances are speculation. But if I found out my best friend was hanging out with Jamie Dimon, Donald Trump, and Alan Dershowitz, as well as a cavalcade of notorious villains and literal monsters, that he had created a global network of underaged women who he exploited for sex 3 or more times per day, literally anything that we've found out about JE, I would cut them off immediately. And if I found out a different friend was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein and was unrepentant, I'd cut them off too. That's all I need. The association is bad enough that I dont need further evidence, personally.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Is there a link to Chomsky commenting on any of this? I’m simply stunned. And I know the monster Epstein collected public figures and I agree that being collected by him is damning. But I’d still like to hear what Chomsky has to say about the image. Like… anything?

[–] Juice@midwest.social 3 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Here is a video of Chomsky from 2020, before the connection between JE and Chomsky had been revealed. He gets a little indignant and defensive about Epstein, interesting flavor info.

Heres the business insider article from 2023 https://www.businessinsider.com/noam-chomsky-mit-wsj-wall-street-journal-jeffrey-epstein-2023-4

And then you have the latest revelations https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails

Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.

The banality of evil: how Epstein’s powerful friends normalised him Read more The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.

Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.

[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

My day is just wrecked.

Chomsky was the last person I believed in.

I don’t believe he diddled… but his descriptions of hanging out with Epstein turn my stomach.

Happy Christmas Eve.

:-)

[–] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 1 points 46 minutes ago

Here is a video of Chomsky from 2020, before the connection between JE and Chomsky had been revealed. He gets a little indignant and defensive about Epstein, interesting flavor info.

Did you maybe forget to paste the link for this? I'm assuming it's probably this one, but if there's another I'd like to see it. In this one, Chomsky first defends Epstein (and his own relationship with Epstein) by citing how it's a foundational tenant of western law that a person who has "served their sentence" is then absolved or "the same as everybody else" as Chomsky puts it. Which is amusing in itself coming from someone who supposedly is such a critic of how asymmetrically that law punishes the weak and powerless vs the rich and powerful. He then does an actual whataboutism by basically saying "well David Koch was even worse, and he also gave money to MIT where I worked. Did anybody say anything about that?" Ok then, Noam, would you go have brunch with Koch on his private jet too, or are you saying that's where you draw the line? I wish the interviewer, who was obviously dissatisfied with his answers had been less deferential to Chomsky.

But if I found out my best friend was hanging out with Jamie Dimon, Donald Trump, and Alan Dershowitz, as well as a cavalcade of notorious villains and literal monsters

I was surprised to learn how close Epstein and Steve Bannon were. Not at all surprised by the connection, but if you read the ongoing conversations they had, they were like a couple of teens gossiping with each other over the phone every night. I do wonder exactly how aware he was that his good buddy Epstein was besties with, as you said, notorious villians and literal monsters (like would Chomsky still be ok if Epstein had been good friends with David Koch for example?), but I doubt Chomsky was as in the dark about it as his fans would like to think. He was aware that Epstein had at least in the past, if not currently was outright human-trafficking children for SA on his private island, but apparently he did his time, and that makes him "the same as everybody else."

It really is an illuminating example of how interconnected so many of the so-called elite really are, even those whose public personas would make us think they could be nothing but bitter enemies. My personal vibes-based belief is that it's a soft form of class solidarity.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just assume anyone I see on TV or in the mainstream, is an intelligence agent. You never see a single person on TV that isnt completely insane. The first time I heard that guy speak, I knew he was a spook. They would never allow someone who wasn't a spook to speak about politics or war or whatever on the news media.

There were some good journalists, but I'm not even sure if there is a single place in the world that an actual journalist could be safe. These days it's usually the cops going after journalists and stuff on Trumped up charges like we are living in Russia or something.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 4 points 1 day ago

It reminds me of this old Chomsky video https://m.youtube.com/shorts/AnFUWrjr25A

"I'm sure you believe what you are saying but if you believed something different you wouldnt be sitting here."

Really calling the kettle on this

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[–] verdi@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago

Mossad leverage against non Zionist jewish activist.

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[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

What's the point of having a world class child prostitution ring if you can't use it smooze with some politicians from time to time. They are all playing the same game, and we aren't in it.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Highly recommend On Chomsky by Roderic Day for anyone that idolizes this guy or thinks him a reputable voice for the left.

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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Chomsky: "The collapse of USSR was victory for the working class"

The "working class" he meant:

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

one thing that I think all lefties can agree on, from Social democrats, Anarchists to "Tankies" The fall of the soviet union was a horrible event for the workers of the former union, shock therapy was the worst possible method one could think of to transition the former communist (socialist if you so dare to be pedantic) economy into a capitalist economy

[–] LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 minutes ago

As much as anyone on the left should agree that the fall of the Soviet Union was a horrible, tragic event for workers there (if not worldwide), I think many if not the majority of Social Democrats and even a few who like to call themselves Anarchists, would deny that fact as vehemently as any capitalist. Western hatred for the USSR runs deep. Chomsky is a perfect example, and there are droves of supposed "lefties" who readily side with him on insisting that “The collapse of USSR was victory for the working class.”

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