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I am standing on the corner of Harris Road and Young Street outside of the Crossroads Business Park in Bakersfield, California, looking up at a Flock surveillance camera bolted high above a traffic signal. On my phone, I am watching myself in real time as the camera records and livestreams me—without any password or login—to the open internet. I wander into the intersection, stare at the camera and wave. On the livestream, I can see myself clearly. Hundreds of miles away, my colleagues are remotely watching me too through the exposed feed.

Flock left livestreams and administrator control panels for at least 60 of its AI-enabled Condor cameras around the country exposed to the open internet, where anyone could watch them, download 30 days worth of video archive, and change settings, see log files, and run diagnostics.

Archive: http://archive.today/IWMKe

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[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 174 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] perishthethought@piefed.social 210 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Or like someone in Hacker News comm suggested, use this to track a US Senator for 24 hours, make it all public, then see if they're still OK with this...

[–] talentedkiwi@sh.itjust.works 129 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They'll just make it illegal for just them. Like the Internet privacy

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[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] JustARegularNerd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

That's the first I've seen a HN web client. Why does it exist, and what's the reason against linking directly to Y Combinator?

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago

YCombinator is a VC fund trying to pretend like they're hacker(tinkering) friendly community, when their business model is boosting their own companies/startups. And companies aren't hitting those profits with people tinkering.

https://soatok.blog/2025/12/17/the-revolution-will-not-make-the-hacker-news-front-page/

In all, that doesn't align with the hacker ethos. They're just capitalizing on what it stands for with a lot of techbro hubris.

The first step of limiting their influence is using a different opensource frontend.

https://github.com/rajatkulkarni95/hckrnws

Peter Thiel invested in Flock through Y Combinator

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[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago

This is the way.

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[–] ksigley@lemmy.world 111 points 1 week ago

I do not consent.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 91 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Makhno@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] M137@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The original is better because no higher resolution version actually looks like the original. It's so weird, it's not hars at all to make a higher res one that's almost identical to the original yet all the ones I've seen just look like shit. I'm gonna take some time tomorrow and make a high resolution version with the details correct.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The high res one looks better as a cutout instead of the full background, but the jpeg adds to the charm IMHO.

[–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The high-res one also removes all the shadows, I assume the upscaling algorithm believed they were blur

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[–] _g_be@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

I swear to God if this is AI upscaled

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 90 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The idea that you're somehow not entitled to privacy based on the publicity of a space has got to be one of the most successful propaganda campaigns used to strip privacy against the will of people.

Fuck you, I want to take a walk and generally travel freely without being tracked by some fucking "Flock" or Ring camera, or uploaded unblurred to some randos Instagram where Meta and Clearview will train facial recognition and generative AI, or having my entire life story and biometric data collected at some airport.

Take me back to the thousands of years humanity existed without obscenely invasive tech.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev -4 points 6 days ago

I'm pretty sure that the "non entitled to privacy" part was not about getting organisationally stalked, but that if someone were to randomly take a picture outside and post it somewhere, then you don't get to make them take down photos.
Also, if you are creating a scene in public, other get to film you as they get to see you.

This is not a problem about privacy in public. This is a problem of:

  • organisational stalking
  • misrepresentation of actions
  • shirking accountability and responsibility
[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's the "common sense" part of the laws.

A honest person has right to live without being tracked. You shouldn't care how they'll do it and you shouldn't care if they go out of business.

And of course you shouldn't fear to be public about it and demand answers, LOL, the most notable for me personally part about today's politics is that in English-speaking countries that fear seems to have become a thing. Well, because any protest that's more than a demonstration is becoming dangerous and costly.

While literal legalism always helps tyranny.

It's not much different from USSR in the 70s and 80s, "yeah, you can have all your rights, a defendant and all, and correspondence and you won't be tortured for submitting a complaint, and Soviet laws will be followed to the letter, but good luck, prove you're not a camel".

Since USSR and western nations no longer exist in the same time period, it's easy to discard even the thought that the latter are gradually becoming similar to the former in some regards, and might even overshoot it.

Anyway, I live in Russia, here things are for the last few months at the point where I can get jailed for writing even this, just because. LOL again.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 56 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Again? How insecure are these things? I am honestly wondering how easy it would be to get into one and shut down the entire system.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Install a hardware-frying virus on it

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I studied coding for a while (and it has been a while since I punched in code), but I never coded a virus. I am hesitant to ask an LLM to do it since I have no idea if it'll work, and I also need to test it to see if it works first. Not sure if I have any sacrificial electronics to do that.

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[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's obvious that these guys are fucking amateur hour Techbros, running this shitshow as they have. I don't doubt they're underpaying and undertraining the contractors they hire to install these things.

[–] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 days ago

If anything, they might have written most of the infrastructure using LLMs. It's easier for vibecode to forget about security because LLMs often forget context or hyperfixate on the wrong features.

[–] excursion22@piefed.ca 50 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Benn Jordan did a recent video on his...explorations of Flock cameras. Essentially, they're easily hackable and really should be an urgent matter of national security.

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[–] baller_w@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago

He co-released a video with 404Media on this new dystopian finding today as well.

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A city in the KC Metro just signed a contract with Flock for drone cameras. Fuck that Big Brother bullshit.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago (4 children)

red light companies most likely use some form of AI/facial recognition.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I feel like Flock Cameras would describe a random individuals walk home from work the same way Andy Samberg does in the music video "Like a Boss".

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