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Salesforces has entered a phase of public reckoning after senior executives publicly admitted that the company overestimated AI’s readiness

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[–] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 132 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“We assumed the technology was further along than it actually was,” one executive said privately

Assumed? They fired nearly half their customer service team on an assumption? Why do they get paid that much money then?

Unfortunately they've wrecked 4000 lives, but they'll take big bonuses and walk away winners.

[–] AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social 63 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Executives are often the most smug, overconfident, easiest to bullshit individuals. You're the easiest to fool when you believe you can't be fooled, and you're most likely to make a bad management decision when you're put in a position that says "you're allowed to decide stuff because you're incredibly smart and correct."

A company doesn't have to convince everyone who works for a company, or even just the people who are going to get fired. They just have to convince one dude who has power at the organization, and suddenly 4,000 people get fucked.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget that they're only accountable to investors who are extremely gullible, especially in the tech and sales sectors.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Upper management doesn't excel at decision making, they excel at convincing others they make good decisions.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago

This was a staggeringly short-sighted and inept move by the senior management of Salesforce. But then from everything I've heard of that company, this is just par for the course.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So they fired some of the execs that made this call right? /s

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Nope. Good ole boys gonna good ole boy.

[–] acchariya@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

More evidence that LLMs are perfectly suited to emulate the incompetence of senior executives.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago

or replace them,

[–] excral@feddit.org 5 points 2 months ago

That's exactly why they appeal to them

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They are one of the worst companies to work with, especially if you manage corporate email systems. I think RIM is the only company that caused me more pain in my career. They really are very poorly managed, and their systems are straight garbage. But they keep making money because execs gonna exec.

[–] JayleneSlide@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

their systems are straight garbage

Unequivocally complete and utter garbage. I led an engineering team at a multinational energy efficiency company. My team built an extremely performant upstream and downstream intervention solution for US utilities, completely in ASP.NET and SQL Server. It was broadly used, on-prem, maintainable, extendable, and more importantly cheap to run. Single proc at every tier.

A new VP came on and had some wiry hair up his sandy ass about doing everything in Force. He refused to listen to anyone on my team about how this was a bad idea. So we built a POC and gave us 4 weeks to go live. The new solution was glacial in its performance, brittle, and expensive. I forget the numbers, but I recall that our cloud spend that first month of deployment would have bought us four more clusters of hardware and MS licenses. His response? Moar Force! You're doing it wrong.

All of us who could jump ship were gone before the second month on the new solution. He somehow survived another 3 months before he got fired, but the damage was done. Oh well. Salesforce, not even once.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah that sounds about right! It’s like riding the Facepalm Express.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

Someone I know at FEMA was talking about they have an old system for disaster claims that IBM wrote for them many years back, and how FEMA just signed a deal with sales force to replace it

I was like... Oh, buddy, you have a very custom fit solution and very complicated workflows...

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

RIM

Now that is a name I haven't heard in a very long time

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I am so sorry.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 30 points 2 months ago

maybe replace your DOUCHEBAG ceo.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 19 points 2 months ago

Sucks to suck, fuckers.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 8 points 2 months ago

Sales

Ah, the scourge of capitalism.
I got some snake oil in my boot to sell you.

[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

lol good. I hope they get the employees they deserve.

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

I worked there before. Was laid off because I wouldn't RTO. Fuck them.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately, I don't see any indication of comprehension of the real problem on the part of the executives. To them, they just had an ooops, we should have waited a bit longer. They aren't going to rethink the strategy. They're going to throw money at it until it works. They will probably throw more money than it would have cost to keep those pesky humans, but there's a more important goal there that they're not saying out loud.