The world has to hold us accountable. Sanction us. Make it hurt.
Americans aren’t the only ones being “cowards” in all of this, as Europeans online love to throw around these days.
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The world has to hold us accountable. Sanction us. Make it hurt.
Americans aren’t the only ones being “cowards” in all of this, as Europeans online love to throw around these days.
The USA will undergo spiraling inflation until it collapses in on itself.
Our federal government is far more trouble than they are worth. We should be like individual states, but united. I declare it the... United States of America! Oh, wait.
But really, we will collapse and split into collections of states, some alone, some allied with others, I'm not sure if it's officially a balkanization, but close enough.
Our state governments will replace the fed automatically and easily (easily as in possible, not easily as in staving off empty shelves, fuel shortages, etc).
Our banking will stay basically the same, because they're not even the government, the Fed is a collection of bankers representing our various super banks. They will rug pull, buy everything at bargain prices, and restart the slow march of inflation richer than ever before.
It's nowhere close to that level. The GOP/ MAGA has been eroding international trust in America for a while now, but realistically, everybody else is on the outside looking in, and even if America removed all women's rights, including the right to vote, or annexed Panama, all that would happen would be strongly worded protests and further political isolation of America from the rest of the world.
Nobody wants to fight a war against the USA, and barring something cataclysmic like an invasion of Mexico, nobody wants to sanction the largest market in the world.
TL;DR: America would have to become much poorer or much weaker before anybody does anything.
World War 3 isn't the answer, not with the biggest players in the defense industry being US based.
If the change in power were due to military power, the EU would have to switch to not relying on the US...which is what they're starting to do!
A more reasonable scenario would be financial: the world deciding to not use the US dollar as the currency standard and start cashing in the US debt.
It'll take the politicians in other countries being willing to say no to bribes from US corporations.
Because the actions that need to be taken involve sanctions on the US and seizing the assets (including patents and trademarks) of US-owned corporations. And refusing to act as a tax haven for them anymore.
But that would benefit everyone while lessening the ability of politicians to enrich themselves with money from oil stolen from Venezuela and money exploited from US citizens. Let's see how noble your politicians are. We know ours are shit.
Or maybe the AI bubble will pop and remove the incentive to kowtow to the interests of American corporations.
I think losing an aircraft carrier would give the US serious pause. Outside that, no idea. Maybe we finally pull the trigger and nuke someone, and that scares the rest of the world enough to start actively sanctioning us. Maybe not, though.
It does seem like most of Europe, Canada, and East Asia are happy to be in the pocket of US financial interests. Even folks who don't like Trump haven't bothered to break away from JP Morgan or Goldman Sachs.
Nobody wants to risk fucking with the money of the global hegemon. And so long as the US is the wealthiest nation on Earth, what's going to deter them?
Kidnap their leaders while they sleep
In the Vietnam war, fragging the officers had a big impact.
What's going to stop it? Short of a new world war, total economic collapse following government and corporate irresponsibility, man-made disasters, and greed in general -- once they get rid of the controls, the checks and balances, and emasculate the agencies like SEC and laws that are supposed to limit corporate irresponsibility and enforce civil rights.
However, Mainland China is highly likely to fill that global power vacuum once and if the US collapses on itself, and where I live I can still feel its heavy-handed influence in terms of voluminous imports of cheap goods, and it'll continue to loom larger over my people even long after I go out in this existence. That's why we have to be careful for what we wish for.
SANCTION THE FUCK OUT OF US
Hit us where it hurts. Our wallets. Fuck our economy up (even more).
And if that doesn't work, start forming military alliances and building up your armies as a show of force.
I am here in America and I can tell you there are A LOT of dumbfucks here that can only learn through pain. So make it hurt. America needs to learn a lesson.
Dude Not the first time US has done this.
If we're talking war - Annexation of Greenland would probably do it.
Once you piss off enough people with allies then historically a lot of contractual responsibilities kick in... But the new playbook like what we've we've seen in Israel is "as long as nobody in government says the word 'genocide' we don't have to honor our previously signed responsibility to step in so even that's dodgy.
Once the US is seen as enough threat to the sovereignty of other nations who are just doing their own thing I think the response will kick in. Right now other countries are likely going to target the US's pocketbook by decreeing various economic and banking sanctions and ratchet up the internal pressures. The US correcting it's own listing ship through internal citizen lead processes is the good outcome and letting it basically fall into civil war is a more acceptable outcome than outside intervention from an international law perspective.
The US has a lot of Hard power : economic development and money, millitary might, strategic bases the world over, an uncomfortable amount of the world's nukes and a landmass that is legit difficult to wage a war on. The bar to actually interfering directly through boots on the ground intelligence related action is really high.
Nothing, since they are all either scared, or part of it.
as opposed to china who recently just kidnapped a whole island of people who very clearly did not want to join china?
as opposed to russia currently invading ukraine?
as opposed to europe who is ignoring the icc and its laws demanding the the arrest of netanyahoo? and who are the weakest of the big 3 militarily by quite some margin?
i think maybe some people need to have a reality check
Getting rid of the Republican party and their major billionaire donors