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So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Most of these answers here are not viable because the US has leverage in almost every nation on earth.

Venezuela, Iran, Russia, China, etc are the exception, hence why they are sanctioned (and constantly suffering problems with every new CIA project) bar China which is locked in a trade war and has a sizable military to back themselves up.

You would realistically require a counter world power that offers an alternative to the US system, which used to be the USSR which no longer exists.

China is poised as the next superpower, but they haven't made any significant moves in that regard because they are wary of the USSR's downfall, and have no intention of engaging the USA in that manner (yet).

Everyone in the UN, despite all their cries, will fall in line when threatened, aside from the aforementioned exceptions.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

War, either world or civil. Unfortunately I don't see any other way at this point

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 16 points 5 days ago

We wait it out. It's a collapsing empire, a real war would prolong the collapse, they'res plenty of historical precedent

We're doing our best to speed run it, guys. Maybe make fun of us for healthcare more, it's a real sore spot

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 14 points 5 days ago

If other countries threatened/targeted members of the heritage foundation instead of enlisted soldiers.

It's very easy (for sociopaths) to ignore threats on other people's lives.

[–] trashcroissant@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I think a workers revolution could do the trick. Get yourselves organized down there and get some heads rolling.

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[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Midterm elections followed by impeachment.

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Invading NATO territory and triggering Article 5.

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

World leaders are doing things. Europe has committed large sums of money to building out their defense industries, China has been building out it's military capabilities for decades, Canada has used tarrifs to strategically punish the US for it's tarrifs on Canadian goods and joined the European defense partnership, presumably to gain access to the aforementioned defense industry build out in Europe. Japan is increasing it's military spending and moving to amend it's constitution to remove the restrictions on military force.

Sanctions against the US like those on Iran are possible, but for a country as large and wealthy as the US with such a diversified economy, even if the entire world sanctioned the US it would plunge them into desperate poverty.

It would wreck the US economy, no doubt, but most world leaders are not willing to even suggest their people should endure that level of hardship over Nicolas Maduro. And the US would still have most of the world ability to project military power, so driving us into a corner like that would be incredibly dangerous.

Make no mistake, every world leader and especially every head of state in Latin America is considering the chance that delta Force could pull them out of bed at 3 AM, I imagine Sheinbaum in Mexico, Lula in Brazil, have a few new grey hairs and especially Cubas head of state is sweating bullets. They don't have the power to prevent it.

I am personally reviewing my options for how to protest this action.

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah - people and countries are trying to get out of their dependency on the US, but they are trying to do so kind of stealthy to not get in confrontations with Trump (who is totally one to escalate stuff if he notices) and also in a way to minimize their losses.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (26 children)

The USA will undergo spiraling inflation until it collapses in on itself.

Our federal government is far more trouble than they are worth. We should be like individual states, but united. I declare it the... United States of America! Oh, wait.

But really, we will collapse and split into collections of states, some alone, some allied with others, I'm not sure if it's officially a balkanization, but close enough.

Our state governments will replace the fed automatically and easily (easily as in possible, not easily as in staving off empty shelves, fuel shortages, etc).

Our banking will stay basically the same, because they're not even the government, the Fed is a collection of bankers representing our various super banks. They will rug pull, buy everything at bargain prices, and restart the slow march of inflation richer than ever before.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

General strike.

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