Ensign_Crab

I do not feel you’re being very fair to what I am saying and I am feeling rather misinterpreted in a hostile way

If you seriously expect me to believe, despite the past dozen years, that democrats treat republicans worse than they treat progressives, you have been interpreted correctly.

No apparently we’re done interacting

As soon as I ask a question you know the answer to, but don't want to answer. At least you've finally accepted that I don't want to interact with you, now that it's convenient.

Too bad it won't last.

So the party treats progressives worse than it does republicans, then?

So, you've gone from telling ridiculous lies about how rejecting progressives and kissing republican ass is somehow treating progressives better than republicans. When you were called on it, you acted like you said nothing of the sort, and now you're sealioning.

I don't want to talk to such distilled dishonesty anymore. It's bad for the soul to be reminded you exist.

I will not be interacting with someone who insults my intelligence as harshly as you just did.

I'm so glad the internet hasn't forgiven them for that.

I'm a bit sad that not everyone remembers when they made up a movie critic so they would have good quotes to put on ads for Sony Pictures movies.

They aren’t treated worse because that makes no sense

The messaging to progressives is "You will shut up and vote as we order you. We will never listen to your concerns and we will blame you for every loss we earn."

The messaging to republicans is "Ok, who do we have to throw under the bus to get your support, Mr. Cheney, sir?"

Yes, progressives are treated worse. Your gaslighting is predicated on a ridiculous lie and I will not be interacting with someone who insults my intelligence as harshly as you just did.

Why should progressives running against democrats while railing against the Democratic Party expect a helping hand from their opponent/the democratic party?

Why should progressives get treated worse by democrats than republicans do? You're acting like progressives are instigating here.

Progressives have won many local seats in places, so no they are not being stopped.

centrists don't have to be 100% successful in their efforts to make sure that only republicans and centrists are allowed to run.

At higher level offices yes of course they struggle to knock out funded, well known incumbents.

So how low is the cutoff here? Where's the line that deliniates "where progressives can win" and "where putting our thumb on the scale against progressives is acceptable"?

But it’s the pitiful turnout at these primaries is the real problem.

Cuellar beat Cisneros by like 500 votes after the party put its full weight behind him. Of course, he was a high enough level to be worth protecting. At the same level, we had Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman, who the party didn't want to protect because they were progressive incumbents.

Why would they expect a friendly, helping hand from an org they often paint as their opposition?

Because we've seen decades of the democratic party offering a friendly helping hand to republicans.

why not take a page from the right’s clearly successful playbook and vote more in local politics and primaries.

I vote in primaries. I also see how, in local races, the party pulls out all the stops to stop progressive challengers to conservative incumbents, an advantage not afforded to progressive incumbents with conservative challengers.

republicans never vote for democrats, yet democrats never stop chasing their votes.

the left wing are far more reliable voters for democrats than the republicans whose votes centrists envy. And their votes are actually gettable. You know their issues.

So, republicans just piled on the anti-trans hate last election, and democrats responded with either silence or running their own anti-trans hate in their own ads.

Republicans are going to choose republicans, no party stood up for trans people, and the Overton window on trans people moved to the right. democrats not only didn't say boo, a few of 'em said yay.

Of course the window was gonna shift with no one counteracting the propaganda. The same propaganda you're boosting.