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[–] dreugeworst@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago (45 children)

I'm not American but there's so many socialists on here refusing to vote for the lesser evil because they don't offer the right candidates and advocating revolution.

why not take a page from the right's clearly successful playbook and vote more in local politics and primaries. Maga managed to turn the republicans into exactly what they wanted this way, but the American left just sits there waiting for someone to start a revolution.

well I understand it might be late now and elections might not do much going forward, but jesus it's like the only option you guys saw is voting for whoever the parties put toward or revolution.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

why not take a page from the right’s clearly successful playbook and vote more in local politics and primaries.

I vote in primaries. I also see how, in local races, the party pulls out all the stops to stop progressive challengers to conservative incumbents, an advantage not afforded to progressive incumbents with conservative challengers.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Progressives have won many local seats in places, so no they are not being stopped.

centrists don't have to be 100% successful in their efforts to make sure that only republicans and centrists are allowed to run.

At higher level offices yes of course they struggle to knock out funded, well known incumbents.

So how low is the cutoff here? Where's the line that deliniates "where progressives can win" and "where putting our thumb on the scale against progressives is acceptable"?

But it’s the pitiful turnout at these primaries is the real problem.

Cuellar beat Cisneros by like 500 votes after the party put its full weight behind him. Of course, he was a high enough level to be worth protecting. At the same level, we had Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman, who the party didn't want to protect because they were progressive incumbents.

Why would they expect a friendly, helping hand from an org they often paint as their opposition?

Because we've seen decades of the democratic party offering a friendly helping hand to republicans.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why should progressives running against democrats while railing against the Democratic Party expect a helping hand from their opponent/the democratic party?

Why should progressives get treated worse by democrats than republicans do? You're acting like progressives are instigating here.

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