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[–] VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's inevitable. No one should trust the U.S. right now, and countries should be attempting to strengthen relations with each other to deal with the fallout that is bound to occur.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago

We are already seeing the Axis form, time to make the new Allies kids!

[–] citizensongbird@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (7 children)

Okay, here's what's actually happening since nobody seems to get the picture.

The Arctic has been melting in recent years, opening up areas that were never accessible before for resource extraction (oil, minerals). This is also why nobody is doing shit about global warming, because the opportunity for profit is too huge.

Canada has claimed ownership over the Arctic and its resources. Greenland/Denmark has claimed ownership as well. America has claimed these areas are in international waters and not ownable by anybody, so it's a free for all. But they know that's a weak position.

If USA takes Greenland, they take the Arctic. That's it, that's all.

Bonus: it's a distraction from Trump's name being all over the Epstein files. Although I'm not sure why he cares so much; his supporters certainly don't. Like he said, he could rape a child in the middle of 5th avenue and he wouldn't lose any votes.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And of course Russia has claimed half of it, because they have about half of the arctic coastline.

the opportunity for profit is too huge

Until their coastal refineries start flooding when Antarctica starts melting. Although even Greenland is already worth 7 meters of sea level rise.

But of course all of that is for future generations to worry about. As long as they can squeeze out a bit more profit before they die, it's all good.

This is the most literal "après moi le deluge" ever.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

... The arctic is huge, like continent-sized. If they take Greenland, they've taken Greenland.

This is also why nobody is doing shit about global warming, because the opportunity for profit is too huge.

That's also not quite so spooky. Ask the average Joe how much of his salary and lifestyle he's willing to give up to prevent it. The answer is almost nothing. We haven't, because we don't wanna.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Average Joe is in debt and can barely afford rent and groceries and insurance and medical bills, and car payments and you get the idea.

There's not much left to sacrifice.

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Britain and France should work together to give a fully equipped nuclear sub to Canada. My country is turning to shit and everyone needs to build nukes to protect themselves from it.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Honestly just the nukes on loan would be enough. There's zero standoff and light defences accross the border. We could supply the uranium or plutonium to make replacements, even.

Failing that, I really hope Carney is eyeing a redundant treaty in case NATO dies.

[–] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I hope so too, but as far as I can tell Canada is being run by the second coming of Neville Chamberlain

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 days ago

The question is which Carney was the act, right? The pre-election version, or the one after? Even if he is elbows-up, doing it quietly would be imperative, so it's not impossible.

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

My dude-after the very first threats Trudeau (who was still PM then) went immediately and directly to France to borrow some subs no doubt. France is now sending troops to Greenland. Shit is serious.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just threaten to send Canadian nuclear reactors into meltdown Chernobyl style. Mutually assured destruction the messy way.

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 27 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Canada and Mexico should make a mutual defense pact. Being pinched by land wars would make things much rougher for the US.

[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Truth. We'd have a war on two fronts without ever leaving home.

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[–] shapeofthings@piefed.ca 17 points 6 days ago (11 children)

Am Canadian. I fully believe that within the next year he will be openly talking about invading. Within a couple of could well be done. The guerrilla war will go on for ever though, you can take Canada but you will have a very hard time keeping it.

[–] tea@lemmy.today 11 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Am American. We (the broad majority) don't want Canada. or Greenland. or Venezuela. Any of this fascist shit. I'm so fucking sick of this. I want to go back to politics being boring-ish and about deciding what taxes will and won't pay for and having actual friends whom we aren't actively bullying. I wish this scenario were laughable, but it's not.

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[–] GaryGhost@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Until about a year ago I would have said that therea no way our people in the military would cooperate. Now with seeing ice do all this heinous shit, yeah our military might actually do it

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

Countries seem woefully unpreprared for the fallout when the US collapses even more than it already has.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 days ago (23 children)

I hope our military is prepared to do something about it

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It really depends on timeframe suggested.

Ever? Yes, they definitely may.

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