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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to c/progressivepolitics@lemmy.world

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Edit context: Hasan is calling out right-wingers for getting upset about leftists carrying guns.

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[–] glimse@lemmy.world 106 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Most leftists don't think all guns are always bad so I'm not sure what value they're supposedly turning on here. Pretty sure the prevailing complaint on the left is about how easy it is to acquire a firearm, not that people have them.

I support people's right to own weapons but it should be a lot harder to purchase and there should be MUCH greater punishments if the weapon you own is used in a shooting (I'm thinking parents of school shooters who poorly secured their guns)

[–] yum_burnt_toast@reddthat.com 126 points 1 month ago (2 children)

i dont think that comment is in reference to leftists turning on an antigun stance but right wing media turning on their hardline 2nd amendment stance to vilify them for it

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ohhh, I guess I interpreted the quoted tweet as positive

[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It helps to have the context of the views of the speak. Hasanabi is a left guy (I had to double check this).

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I knew Hasan was left but not that the quoted tweet was a conservative reporter complaining about it

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[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I read that as Hasan questioning the MAGAt if there was any value rightoids won't forfeit since they are stereotypically very 2A and now this guy's positing as if owning guns to guard against a tyrannical government is bad.

If he was trying to criticize leftists or liberals, why'd he choose a right wing source of the news to react to?

To be fair, I don't really watch Hasan, so it's possible my interpretation is completely wrong as clarified in one of his streams.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that's how I read it too.

The thing about reactionaries is that they think rules are for other people. It's only hypocritical if one takes them at their word, but they only care about winning points in arguments. They'll argue any position if they can twist it into sounding reasonable, and they'll steal the language of liberation from the left to do so.

Their singular principle is that entrenched power must defend itself, because they know benefits them directly. They sincerely don't care about the second amendment; they don't think it applies to everyone, only "real" Americans who look and act like white supremacists.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

These people don't understand nuance. If you're against general unrestricted availability of guns, but are not against all availability of guns, you've already lost them, they'll label you as "anti-gun nut" and then be shocked if you say you own a gun, call you "out" on turning on your own convictions.

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 91 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I watched the whole thing he said and was immediately ready to join the Philly Black Panthers. Don't worry about the fact that I'm a MidWest white lady.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You can join the white panthers. The white panthers back up the black panthers

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or maybe it's time for a new Rainbow Coalition to rise from the ashes.

I'm sure this time the FBI won't sabotage it. Surely.

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[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Is this true or is this the white power equivalent because some people got mad?

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 month ago

The White Panther Party is legitimate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Panther_Party

I can understand the concern at least, it's a white supremacist thing to co-opt things.

[–] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Idk about today, but the original panthers did have a solidarity org for white folks, called The White Panthers.

If you've ever heard the band, The MC5, they were in the White Panthers

The Rainbow Coalition also included an org called The Young Patriots, which was a communist group that organized white southerners and Appalachians who had migrated north to big cities

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 75 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The Second Amendment is meant for SHOOTING SCHOOLS and TODDLERS SHOOTING PARENTS NOT Protecting your Neighborhoods!

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 54 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Go far enough left and you get your guns back.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 18 points 1 month ago

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”

― Karl Marx

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Im so goddamn hot for this shit

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 45 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Why do people think that's a leftist?

Sounds like every single american who sees masked guys in their neighborhood and hasn't turned on the news in a couple years.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 24 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Liberals don't like guns and Republicans like Ice, so who does that leave?

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Lots of left leaning people have guns we just don’t make them our entire personality

[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

I have four myself. I hate to carry one though. I'm too aware of the responsibility involved. I'd rather be beaten up than kill someone.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It leaves the regular americans who are not into political tags. You know, most of us.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

History books are gonna stick people and movements into categories whether they actively espouse the labels themselves or not, but tbf not reading history books because "we're not like those other countries" is about as American as it gets, so rock on

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[–] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I don't like guns. But if you got 'em, use 'em.

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[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Reminds me back in the day was browsing a socialist gun subredditt at my brother's house and my brother was shocked. He said "socialist have guns!"

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

“Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary”

― Karl Marx

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[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I have it on good authority that there are far, far more liberals and leftists armed in the USA than anyone can imagine.

The difference is when you're not an ammosexual you don't have to constantly scream and whine and cry about your guns. You just have them and know how to use them and not think about them 24/7.

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[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You're not a hypocrite for following the current law and also wanting to change the same law.

One opinion is about what an individual's best choice is, given the situation.

The other is about what laws would be best for a society to have.

What's best for an individual is not always the same as what's best for a group or society.

[–] almost1337@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

The problem that we frequently run into is people who only want what's best for them at the cost of society, while still wanting full benefits of being a member of said society.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

"You want to live in a world without the need for guns, yet you use them when necessary. Curious! I am very intelligent."

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Oh my god! You hypocrite! You are not supposed to fight back! You have morals remember?!?"

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[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm not a big fan of guns. But fuck these losers for having a problem with people displaying their guns. Suck a donkey dick ya pussies.

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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Every leftist should arm themselves at all times at this point.

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[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The fact that they said "leftists" instead of "liberals" made me think they weren't a right-winger.

Even liberals call most leftists liberals...

I got more context from the thread.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Every protest needs to have a line of armed people standing right in front.

That, more than anything, will make ICE think twice before attacking. (Because they're pussies.)

[–] zd9@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

you love to see it

[–] jim@lemmy.org 7 points 1 month ago

I love to see it

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Thr media literacy in this thread is sad

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[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's not even turning in the value. If you talk to most leftist they acknowledge fire arms shouldn't be banned out right. There should just me more control so every raving lunatic who wants one can't.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

This is about the way the right wingers are reacting to leftists taking up arms in the face of tyranny. Not the leftists themselves.

[–] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Look at him,lefting his leftism all over the left side…

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