I'm pretty sure Ireland is where all the major companies are "headquartered" and technically keep all their money there for tax reasons. Ireland could just freeze the bank accounts of Apple, Google, Microsoft, Meta, Intel, ... Or do something similar if they so choose as retaliation. Would be devastating financially afterwards, but would get the US's full attention
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The EU needs to divest its self of US technology. It’s clear we have gone down the drain and will no longer be considered a competent ally.
Block billionaire's services and nourish European alternatives.
Make all the IP of those billionaires unprotected in the EU. Maybe also get China on-board.
No Tariffs. tariffs can be passed on to the poor, who have no part in this invasion. Start sanctioning the Billionaires & seize their assets instead.
and why the fuck not all billionairs?
Tarrifs the fuck outta Tesla and spacex
you can do that by siezing thier properties and thier bank accounts(including thier investments).
I mean, most of their cash is sitting in Ireland.
It's a super long read, but filled with nuggets that explain exactly how to hit the rich by taking away their money. The TL;DR is to repeal the country's anti-circumvention law then route the subscription money locally.
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there's a third possible response to tariffs, one that's just sitting there, begging to be tried: what about repealing anticircumvention law?
It's hard to convey how much money is on the table here. Take just one example: Apple's App Store. Apple forces all app vendors into using its payment processor, and charges them a 30 percent commission on every euro spent inside of an app.. .. Apple makes $100 billion per year on it. If the EU repeals Article 6 of the Copyright Directive, some smart geeks in Finland could reverse-engineer Apple's bootloaders and make a hardware dongle that jailbreaks phones so that they can use alternative app stores, and sell the dongle – along with the infrastructure to operate an app store – to anyone in the world who wants to go into business competing with Apple for users and app vendors.
Those competitors could offer a 90% discount to every crafter on Etsy, every performer on Patreon, every online news outlet, every game dev, every media store. Offer them a 90% discount on payments, and still make $10b/year.
I'm a game dev and I'd love to see nothing more than Apple getting slapped down for what they've done to mobile gaming, but this won't work.
Setting aside how hard bootstrapping a two-sided marketplace is, those of us that currently depend on Apple store placement and goodwill can't risk pissing Apple off.
Don't hide behind fear of change. Just because you can't imagine a possible future without Apple doesn't mean no one can and that it can't be done.
I know some rich assholes here in the states... Put a 1000% tarrif on everyone visiting from the US. Nobody working class can afford it right now anyway.
This only affects the poor. It doesn't affect billionaires, the ones who can affect change.
It's cute you think the working class and working poor are clamoring for international trips.
I mean, do I think it would be effective? No. But to say this would affect the poor as if this would be some kind of major impact? Come on.
Looks at my bank account…. Nope, no money for a European trip anytime soon. I need a new roof more than a trip. Besides, by the time I have the money, it’s likely going to have little value. Yay to being the new Zimbabwe
I think you don't have the same definition of poor as I do in this context. Poor for me means not a billionaire oligarch.
According to lemmy, anyone with a retirement fund and able to go on even one vacation a year, is not working class.... anyone who owns their home, and basically has a net worth over $1M, is not working class....
This kind of mentality completely works against the class consciousness we need to be building...
Hell, we need to be getting people with $5M net worth on board with us (i'm just throwing arbitrary number out). The target shouldnt be the 1% anymore... it's the 0.1%
Yep.
If Europe announced a 100% tariff on Amazon, Facebook, Microsoft, and OpenAI, Trump would be gone in a week.
Tax Amazon, 50%
Tax Google, 50%
Tax Microsoft, 50%
Tax Apple, 50%
Tax Meta, 50%
Ban X, 100%
Ban Facebook
Seriously, at least the others, while evil, produce something of value for us.
Sorry, I'm being very disrespectful to the fan of the metaverse.
Yeah, but you can do better.
This would be the largest W of the century, but I'm going to go ahead and manage my expectations
You could enact or enforce laws that forbid a felon, or associates of a felon, entry to your country.
Who would want criminals, or associates of criminals entering your country?
You might name such an organisation Immigration Criminal Exclusion, or ICE for short
And I only have one upvote 😒
No, you have 25!
...to give
In addition, kick out McDonalds, Burger King and Subway. Better for general health too.
Treat the American oligarchy like the robber barons they are
This would make Trump panic in the best way, it would directly undermine his aesthetic of Rich Asshole Who Other Rich Assholes Like.
We already know how to do this, its literally the first thing we did when we sanctioned Russia for Ukraine. Target the business interests of the people actually making the decisions.
This was always the answer they were just too afraid of their own rich people until a land invasion seemed imminent.
Forget taxing them, the ones who committed crimes against humanity (Zuckerberg with enabling the Rohingya genocide, Musk for the disastrous disorderly shut down of USAID).
And get rid of all American oligarch gang activity; Apple, Google, Meta, all of them.
Europe has to get the ball rolling on a tech independence from US owned infrastructure (cloud). Then they can ban them.
Of course, not a disorderly one, a multi-staged, organization expulsion of US services.
Finally some fucking sense. Doing nothing and being mad has gotten no one anywhere. Hit them where it fucking hurts, bottom line be damned. Governments are not businesses.
Europe: sorry, best we can do is specific carveouts for US billionaire owned companies in our tax code....