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remember when people were actually excited about new android releases because they were weird and consumer friendly?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Weird that they want to do all the verification themselves and not just allow certificate signing using verified CAs. Oh well it's not weird because we all know Google does this to fight back against third party stores and to get developers back to their shitty one and of course to better track them.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm guessing what you're suggesting is that Google's proposal is the same as requiring all packages be signed and accompanied by an Extended Validation or Oragnisation Validation X.509 certificate.

While that would technically work, the problem with using the existing PKI is that it's still very expensive to get EV/OV certificates. And the most common of these certs (those for TLS purposes) will soon only last 47 days which is, to put it mildly, would be a pain in the ass to use for package-signing.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

My project uses a free one from SignPath. They offer this for opensource projects and require a verifiable GitHub build process. It's not EV certs but it's good enough and free.

[–] Balldowern@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Perfect time for the Chinese to setup a shell company in Mexico that sells smartphones & devices with AOSP-android-based OS to the US. It'll sell like hot cakes.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

It’ll sell like hot cakes.

Nope... lot of apps won't run.

Nobody is buying a phone without Google Play Certification.

Not to mention, some carriers like ATT have a weird whitelist thing.

Also, there might be compatibility issues with provisioning the SIM, since I just had an issue with LineageOS breaking data connection, but restoring factory rom fixes it, then I flash Lineage again and it broke again, so yeah... I expect similar issues with a "Non- Google Play Certified" device.

Biggest thing is: Netflix Widewine defaults back to L3 instead of L1 requited for HD stuff

Before you say "just pirate", most people don't know how to do that. Also somethings can't even get pirated since its so niche.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

edit: this is an article from November, its not something new...


bullshit! if this is actually what the "new" rule is, the exact same thing was already part of their unacceptable original plans.

To accommodate educational and noncommercial development, Google will introduce a new limited developer account type aimed at students and hobbyists. These accounts will not undergo full identity verification but will instead allow app installations on a restricted number of registered devices.

no to any kind of accounts, to any kind of developer registration, and any kind of install limits! its none of google's business what apps people install outside their store, and so they shouldn't be able to enforce a global installation limit for any apps!

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 days ago

I use GrapheneOS (Lineage OS and CyanogenMod before that) and I'm perfectly happy witn alternative software installation sources.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

My entire job depends on such an app, so this is a bit of a relief.

[–] afk_strats@lemmy.world 247 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This framing still sucks. Google is blocking apps THEY don't approve on YOUR phone.

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[–] Feyd@programming.dev 202 points 1 week ago (23 children)

They won't kill side loading (the fact we even call it side loading instead of simply installing software is a problem). They'll just shoot it in the knees a little. No big deal.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 64 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They'll be able to stop a group of less technically savvy people, who currently are sideloading, from using their phones the way they choose. Apparently that's good enough for Google.

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[–] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 101 points 1 week ago (16 children)

I fucking hate that word. It's not 'sideloading' to install on my own device what I want to install, to use the apps I want to use; to not use the apps I don't want to use. I am not 'sideloading' anything when I install programs on my PC. No different on my phone.

Fuck off with all these new bullshit terms that are only used to imply that what we're doing (with our own devices) is somehow outside the norm, to justify the constant enshittifcation and the growing stranglehold these corporations want on our lives. It's infuriating.

[–] su_liam@mas.to 5 points 6 days ago

@wide_eyed_stupid @Gsus4 “You will own nothing, and if you don’t like it you can talk to the security cyberdog that has you in its sights.”

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So about those linux phones....

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Aaaaaaany day now..... guys..?

(I have a pinephone and no, it is absolutely nowhere near ready)

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[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 91 points 1 week ago (21 children)

The company says it is now developing an “advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn’t verified.” This installation flow will include safeguards to protect people who are being coerced into installing a dangerous app, or tricked by a scammer, along with “clear warnings to ensure users fully understand the risks involved.”

IIRC we already had to enable a setting and confirm a warning popup. What are they gonna do? Add more popups? A captcha-"puzzle"? Less easy to accept dialogs?

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 week ago

A "concession" to use your phone, and you need to give your address, phone number, and ID. Fuck off.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Meanwhile the Play Store is full of scams. This isn't about safety, it making sure they get a cut from the scam apps.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

It's a trashpile. If I need an app, I search 'site:reddit android app x' or look in f-droid

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

They're not killing sideloading, they're just building the gallows and sharpening the axe.

The outrage doesn't stop anything, it just makes them slow their plans and wait out the public outrage.

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