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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So about those linux phones....

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Aaaaaaany day now..... guys..?

(I have a pinephone and no, it is absolutely nowhere near ready)

[–] Gigasser@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My guess is that any good Linux phone experience would need greater funding from some company or foundation....(Valve please?)

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's kind of a double edged sword though. Android got a foothold because a small scrappy unknown company in silicon valley brought them into the fold...

[–] communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's not if it's done right, android is problematic because it's not a community project, it's just a code dump.

case in point, the linux kernel itself

[–] exu@feditown.com 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The Pinephone used way underpowered hardware when it came out.

Regardless, there's been a lot of progress from postmarketOS and others the past years and especially accelerated once again with the original announcement to kill installing apps outside of the PlayStore.

I've also gone ahead and put in a reservation for the new Jolla phone to support another alternative.

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[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 91 points 1 week ago (20 children)

The company says it is now developing an “advanced flow that allows experienced users to accept the risks of installing software that isn’t verified.” This installation flow will include safeguards to protect people who are being coerced into installing a dangerous app, or tricked by a scammer, along with “clear warnings to ensure users fully understand the risks involved.”

IIRC we already had to enable a setting and confirm a warning popup. What are they gonna do? Add more popups? A captcha-"puzzle"? Less easy to accept dialogs?

[–] TWeaK@lemmy.today 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably a captcha puzzle, or some other thing that requires you to connect to them and surrender your data for free for their commercial purposes.

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[–] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 69 points 1 week ago

A "concession" to use your phone, and you need to give your address, phone number, and ID. Fuck off.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Meanwhile the Play Store is full of scams. This isn't about safety, it making sure they get a cut from the scam apps.

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

They're not killing sideloading, they're just building the gallows and sharpening the axe.

The outrage doesn't stop anything, it just makes them slow their plans and wait out the public outrage.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 35 points 1 week ago

The company has confirmed that it is developing an "advanced flow" to let experienced users install apps from unverified developers

How about don't change it at all, Google

[–] termaxima@slrpnk.net 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"side" loading is just normal loading for me. I have one single app from the google app store. (It's cookie clicker 😂)

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

Even calling it side loading is an attempt to delegitimise the practice. To make it sound like you're doing something dodgy by the side.

It's just installing an app.

Nobody calls installing an app from outside the Microsoft store on their Windows PC "side loading".

Likewise for Macs regarding their app store, or installing an app from outside your distro's repository on Linux.

[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Do you use Fdroid or simply get apks online, like we all used to before these walled gardens?

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[–] Anon764967@lemmy.org 28 points 1 week ago

I'm not worried about sideloading because I use GrapheneOS, but I'm worried that development for various apps might stop...

[–] ZeroGravitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They must really hate ReVanced.

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago

Oh, I bet. They probably hate GrayJay more though.

GrapheneOS is luckily out of their jurisdiction :)

Can anyone verify if this is the "new" update to the process? The article takes 75% of the way to get to this paragraph and isn't even clear if this is Google's proposed concession or an existing separate process:

To accommodate educational and noncommercial development, Google will introduce a new limited developer account type aimed at students and hobbyists. These accounts will not undergo full identity verification but will instead allow app installations on a restricted number of registered devices.

If that is the workaround, it sounds like it's still awful since it requires a Google developer account and really only would work for limited development deployment.

[–] pantomime@leminal.space 20 points 1 week ago

Billionaires doing what a billionaire does: feign a reason to kneecap a service, force complaints about its ineffectiveness, then use that as an excuse to dismantle it entirely. I am so tired of this.

[–] OscarRobin@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

Boiling the frog

[–] PierceTheBubble@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 week ago

Great, more hoops to jump thr... I mean... an "advanced flow", for gaining the privilege of installing apps of your choosing

[–] Zink@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Cool story, goog.

I'm just going to keep waiting for a linux/foss phone so that its features and capabilities are actually predictable year to year.

But maybe I'm just too picky about what features and capabilities I want. I admit I've gotten used to some pretty outlandish stuff like... lemme check my notes here... "the device does the things I tell it to do." Real galaxy-brain shit!

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[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

This is from November, and is about the 'student accounts' thing which doesn't at all help the central issue of being forced to make an account to distribute your app

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Fuck all of this tech bros enshittification surveillance bullshit. I'm going to Radio Shack and buy a Heath Kit! /s

[–] trashboat@piefed.social 7 points 1 week ago

If Google continues to round the corners of their Google Play triangle icon, it’ll become a circle in a few years

[–] brooke592@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

It's all about herding people by dictating the path of least resistance.

[–] berty@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

So this sucks obviously. Will this also affects apps from alternate appstores like F-Droid or only APK's? I mean F-Droid already signs the apps, right? I'm a little confused.

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