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Yugopnik tweeting nazi shit (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 3 days ago by CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml to c/genzedong@lemmygrad.ml
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Some people don't believe me when I try to warn them about the content creator grift. I don't care, I'm coming for all of them if they start spouting shit like this to their audience. They have a responsibility towards their viewers.

Second time I see him tweet shit like this.

At this point he should just stop pretending he's any sort of leftist. His mental health will thank him.

archive link so he can't scrub it off the internet: https://archive.ph/XWZD6 (still loading as of posting but should be ready eventually)

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[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Mao was able to organize the masses who were living in feudal conditions, westerners have no excuse. The ableist thinking from that tweet is pure cope.

[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Maos peasants weren't people propagandized from birth to worship capitalism and be good little nationalists that believe every other nation on earth is a shit hole, and taught that communism is the literal devil incarnate. I'd take the peasant over that any day. You could actually talk to those people without the threat of semi-automatic weapons being pointed at you. It's easier to start with a nearly blank slate then one that's had this level of propaganda drilled into their being.

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[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's telling that if you swapped out "right wing" for "left wing" in his post, it would be indistinguishable from eugenics style stuff that the right gets up to. So at a glance, it looks like pushing rightist ideology under the guise of "hello fellow leftists" (I don't know much about him otherwise, so I don't know what his other takes look like, if they are consistent with this look).

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago

He's one of the co-hosts of the Deprogram podcast and this eugenics take is simultaneously consistent with some of the edgy stuff that the hosts of the pod say for humor, and inconsistent because they usually hold the line on some basic things like queerphobia, ableism, misogyny, etc. (in a broad sense, they've probably always been flawed)

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's the second time I've seen him tweet shit like this. I can probably dig up the previous time if I go looking in my discords.

I can understand being exasperated esp when you're an somewhat known figure you probably get a lot of trolls and content of this sort sent your way, and sometimes you just quip something back at them. but to take the time to type out all of this and then decide "yes, I shall now send this. It's a good idea" is something else.

Believe people when they show you who they are. Anyone can appear however they want when they control the camera, but posts like this are off-the-cuff moments where they feel like they're talking to their friends around the campfire.

Here was the last time actually (archive):

his defense was the person in the video is a millionaire nepo baby so that makes it okay. Like again there's a difference between saying "eat the rich" and making an entire eugenics screed over a video.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I know that “Just like le consumer franchise!” is a massive liberal meme, but this is essentially just the Imperial line of thought in Warhammer. If you’re spouting the same rhetoric as a satirically Uber fascist ethnostate, especially as a leftist, then you’ve officially lost the plot.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, wow, that's wildly over the top. It also looks very forced from where I'm standing. I don't look at that and see soullessness or anything, I see a couple of people who actually look very normal and human. And it's important people understand that being rich doesn't suddenly make someone a sociopath or something. Sometimes people do sociopath things in order to get rich, or maintain their wealth, but it doesn't even necessarily mean they lack empathy. They could be very empathic to people in their social circle, while justifying their behavior as defending what they have, or be heavily insulated from the damage of what they do because of the layers of indirection involved in capitalism. There are also degrees of rich. Millionaire in this day and age can mean you had a high paying job, worked for decades, and saved well. Billionaire is you're basically a king without the title.

That said, one of the most important things to internalize, I'd say, is that the inertia of systems is far more powerful than what a few individuals decide. Which is why the ML line is "seize the means of production" and not "literally eat the rich because they are subhuman". There's just nothing beneficial about encouraging that kind of thought. It's at best wasted energy, directing people more toward fleeting, impassioned rage than long-term strategy. It's the kind of stuff you say when you want to incite a riot, not organize a revolution.

[–] GlueBear@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

They could be very empathic to people in their social circle, while justifying their behavior as defending what they have, or be heavily insulated from the damage of what they do because of the layers of indirection involved in capitalism.

These people don't need to be humanized. They already have so much, too much actually, and will almost always act the way everyone expects them to act when reparations and transfer of means occurs. They will lash out, they will become violent, and they will hate you and every one else that isn't within their immediate circle. There are so many people that exist inside and outside your country that are barely given a thought. The homeless begging for simple acknowledgment and being denied even that, the unnamed masses (the statistics!) that die every day in the periphery of the empire to preventable illnesses and starvation. The victims of wars that were the lab mice for the brutality that has finally begun to reach the empire's doorstep.

So many more people deserve that sympathy that you're giving to people that will treat exactly the way Marx outlined.

Add: ygpk is using hateful language and is using the talking points of eugenics in his posts. Everyone itt calling him out on his hateful behavior is correct. I only made my comment because I just don't feel the need to direct sympathy towards the rich.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 3 days ago

I don't see how I gave them sympathy. The point is that they aren't all ghouls whose eyes you can look into and see pure evil or something. It's much more mundane and systemic than that and if people don't understand that, they will be unequipped to properly challenge power; instead chasing after threats in the same way that liberals view Trump as an embodiment of evil and miss the evil behind the decorum of somebody like Joe Biden.

Rich people will tend to act in their class and caste interests, yes, which can be very blatantly, sometimes cartoonishly evil (more so in the billionaire class than somebody with a few million). That doesn't mean you can look them in the eye and be unable to find signs of a soul. It doesn't even mean that if you spent the day with them, you'd necessarily think they're a bad person. And if you go in expecting it to be obvious that they are evil, you will be confused during the times when they aren't.

I don't need to humanize them. They are human. That doesn't make what they are part of any less horrific. If people want to call em ghouls sometimes or whatever, hell, I've done that myself. But I see that more as venting. What I was talking about was a preoccupied screed about how subhuman a couple of random people are.

Your emphasis on the plight of the downtrodden is valuable, both morally and strategically. It needs to be emphasized just how bad it is for the oppressed. But that doesn't negate what I've said, which was directed at a specific context, not meant as some kind of sympathy for the rich.

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sympathy isn't a finite resource, just because I acknowledge the humanity of rich people (even tho on a personal level I detest them) doesn't mean I acknowledge the suffering of poor people less. Like the person above said, being so performative about your hatred towards the rich is ultimately pointless.

[–] GlueBear@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I get it, I don't believe anyone here is giving more thought to rich people than to others.

But if I can be so honest with you: these people probably don't care about you, so why on earth should you care about them? So they're at the receiving end of either unsavory or outright hateful rhetoric. Beyond calling out the use of hateful rhetoric, why should anyone go the extra mile and show them sympathy?

My personal opinion: ignore them like they ignore you

[–] falconhoof@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

doesn't really matter when people are being shot dead on the streets chief

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[–] 201dberg@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 3 days ago

I don't agree but when I look around at the people in this country.... I mean, I get where someone might say something like this.... I have developed a fear of talking to people because of the crazy shit I hear. The first few times I heard someone say something so crazy that I legitimately thought "no way a person just said this?" I was shocked, but now I'm constantly shocked at how often it keeps happening....

I do, legitimately think a large portion of Americans lacks critical thinking, and have some absolutely bat shit insane thoughts. But in all seriousness, the majority of it is literally just propaganda, brain rotting media, and purposeful failure to teach critical thinking at young ages. Critical thinking isn't just something that happens magically later in life. You have to teach it, and schools in this country....lol. The system is designed to keep us uneducated and compliant. They don't want us to think for ourselves, to act for ourselves, and definitely not to question ourselves and by extension, what they have told us. Anyone that argues it's not is either not paying attention or not here to witness it. Then, when someone lives long enough like that, it just becomes a core foundation of who they are. It's not some metal disease, it's just, all they know.

And while shit like pollution can affect the development of the brain, I would say, saying a whole country the size of the US is that way because of it, is a bit of a stretch.

[–] dazaroo@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 3 days ago

14yo take

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 days ago

Hakim come get your boy jfc.

[–] Marat@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This isn't the entire problem, obviously, but this is why I don't use Twitter [beyond the garbage ui]. It's basically what happens when you give people a way to say intrusive thoughts completely seriously.

This type of thing isn't something ive thought specifically, but I've had plenty of bad takes in my head that I didn't spread to an audience with 100% confidence. [For example: Having very strong opinions on the Turkish-Greek conflicts (despite being from neither country). Luckily beyond just disliking Rome and some snide remarks about how much I love that Ataturk renamed Constantinople, i didn't say anything]. I'm sure there's plenty of well meaning people who might have had similar thoughts to Yugo here, but didn't say them.

The other issue is that Yugo should be better than this. It's like what I said about 1dime recently. If this was a baby leftist then I'd be concerned but the thought would probably just be an impulsive thing that's easily corrected. Yugo has an audience of thousands and should be well developed, ergo this thought is more concerning in him than anonympus user "libdestroyer9000"

Edit: more seriously, what's the explanation for this? Taking this argument seriously has its own problems sure, but like...what biological factor would be at play here? Why would one place act like this and another not? Beyond just "stupid people." Which definitely isn't ableist at all

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

more seriously, what’s the explanation for this? Taking this argument seriously has its own problems sure, but like…what biological factor would be at play here?

lead poisoning most likely. despite it being a global issue I've seen this take before, ie. the yanks are still working through the generations that had their brains stunted by lead. I don't claim this take but I've seen it a lot in anti-US spaces, though I kind of thought it was a meme tbh.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That wouldn't be specific to chuds, though. It'd affect people across the spectrum and probably would hit poor people the hardest.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe he's casting an incredibly wide net over yanks and including most of them as chuds? It wouldn't be incorrect to describe demographics in general as far more rightward in the states. I'm just trying to make sense of the statement and just seeing what sticks. Yugopnik says some pretty unhinged things and this might just be an utterly underdeveloped, spiteful thought.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're giving him way too much credit. If there's widespread lead poisoning that's causing cognitive decline for millions of people, there will be communists among those millions of people. To think otherwise is wrong for 2 huge reasons:

  1. You're essentializing right wing ideology to the point that it's impossible to think the people who believe in it could ever change, because based on this worldview the only people who believe in right wing ideology are biologically inferior.
  2. You're making the in-group (communists in this case) think that they're inherently superior to those who have something wrong with them at a biological level.

It goes without saying that leftists need to believe that change is possible; that doesn't mean being naive about how hard that's gonna be for American fascists, or even to believe that redeeming every single one of them is necessary. But you at least need to believe that there's nothing that's baked into reactionaries that makes them reactionary, or else you're halfway to accepting an aristocratic and austere worldview where you set out to give comfort only to the sensitive and noble people, and nothing but hard labor to the brutes. In other words, you may as well drop Marx and pick up Nietzsche.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 days ago

I think its worth dismantling the take, but I think I'm not the person who needs to read this. Still a good write up for the thread.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago

lead poisoning may or may not explain why boomers are the way they are (and may explain other negatively perceived behaviors that may be considered less political), but something like microplastics could easily ruin the next 100 years.

[–] Conselheiro@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Are my tactics and strategy as a militant ineffective and in need of re-evaluation?

No, it's the people who are biologically inferior.

This is what substituting a party for a podcast does to a mf. I'm so glad that Second Thought is in the red.

[–] thefreepenguinalt@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 3 days ago (5 children)

ST does make good content tho idk what you got against them
ST =/= Yugo and deserves to be evaluated on their own merit

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[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are my tactics and strategy as a militant ineffective and in need of re-evaluation?

To be fair there isn't a lot he can do about educating USians beyond posting in English on the internet (and I mean posting on the internet isn't doing a lot)

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The problem is precisely that he spends too much time talking to an American audience. There is a broader international audience out there than just America. Maybe talk about how people in Europe can organize. You have two out of three people on the podcast who are not from the US. Yet i hear little to nothing about the politics of their countries. The US centrism of the podcast is off the charts.

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

What really hit the nail on the head is that the most likely reason why he's not active in Serbia is that he has a cushy job at a big company and wouldn't want to risk losing everything by being recognised as an open leftist activist

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

As always: look at where someone's material interests lie. It's the same with Hasan Piker. I still don't understand why so many leftists continue to defend him when it is clear that his material interests now align with the substantially wealthy group of self-employed petite bourgeois that he surrounds himself with. That explains why he is so focused on Democratic party activism.

[–] lil_tank@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I think people like that he's undoing anti-China propaganda, because it's such a controversial topic you feel like somebody who does that has to be a comrade through and through, which isn't true unfortunately

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[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 3 days ago

The US centrism of the podcast is off the charts.

Who do you think donate the most to podcasts?

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 days ago

Yikes, that comment reeks of idealism.

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Just to play devil's advocate here- Yugo is specifically talking about Americans, not a racial, ethnic or religious group. And dialectical materialism does start with the idea the material conditions play a large role in determining how people think. It sounds to me like he is critiquing the stupidity of America as a whole, not that he is being a na I and saying exterminate because they are all vermin.

[–] Богданова@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 3 days ago

He says he doesn't know what he's talking about and that it's just his beliefs, in the tweet itself.

He could make the exact same point, while omitting genetics entirely and it'd still land without dipping into eugenics. That's the issue here.

With that being said I feel equally uncomfortable with how yugopnik's mental health is told to be in jeopardy because he pretends to be a leftist?

and why is the solution for him to pretend to be one and not to seek out a real life community to engage with instead of this shithole that is X?

I know things are super tense right now everyone is on the edge so we're gonna be making lots of mistakes, but let's not start telling people to give up. We're acting like crabs in a bucket here while the fascists are arming themselves to kill us.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I used to donate to the deprogram podcast for quite a while until I realized they have some really fucking bad takes once in a while and they just don't give a shit about it whatsoever.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

One of their biggest errors is their position on the Ukraine war. Like so many western leftists, they have an unfortunate tendency to allow their (legitimate) criticism of modern Russia to cloud their judgement on the nature of the conflict. It certainly did not help that the only Russian they invited to talk to them about the SMO was from a fringe ultra-left group more concerned with opposing the Russian government than with what is actually happening in Ukraine.

For once i want western leftist commentators to invite someone from the KPRF, or someone from the DPR/LPR (there are even some locals from the region who make YouTube videos), or just a journalist who has been to that region on the Russian side during the SMO or the 8 year Donbass war.

I'm not in media like they are but even i could name at least three English speaking journalists off the top of my head who have visited the front line and spoken to people in the region and could educate them on what the people there really think, if they bothered to try and get into contact with them. It is really inexcusable that they haven't tried to really educate their audience (and more importantly themselves) deeper on the conflict.

And they spend way too much time making cringy, infantile jokes. I get that it's a podcast and you want to keep it somewhat entertaining, but come on, have some professionalism. At the very least they could add a woman as a regular co-host, because some of the jokes feel really inappropriate sometimes.

[–] amemorablename@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 3 days ago

And they spend way too much time making cringy, infantile jokes. I get that it’s a podcast and you want to keep it somewhat entertaining, but come on, have some professionalism. At the very least they could add a woman as a regular co-host, because some of the jokes feel really inappropriate sometimes.

Sounds like the problem of becoming more "left" in belief but not interrogating what you grew up in and how it impacts you. I believe it's very possible to be entertaining and even humorous without going for shock jock level of humor (which is what it sounds like the ballpark of by how you describe it). But you can't assume that whatever joke comes to mind is fine just because. Sense of humor is informed by the culture like anything else. Figuring out how to be funny in a way that adheres to more newly adopted ideological principles takes more effort compared to the reflexes of the old, but it's possible to figure out. The way I look at it, a good starting point is to assume that a joke is going to have an ideological bias and go from there, i.e. be conscious about the ideology it espouses. Don't go into it with the belief that jokes can escape ideological influences, that they are "just a joke." Jokes can have powerful rhetorical influence.

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